i 'm working for a research project at the university of vienna it 's the english department
mhm
er which is er looking at english as a lingua franca _0 which is what you 're _0 using today english
what we 're doing today
what you 're doing today erm erm so english among people who do n't have it as a first language but use it as a foreign language
mhm
mhm
and we 're again conne- er collecting a huge database of interactions in english as a lingua franca _0 erm in order to describe what this english has for specific features and we 're not really looking for mistakes but we 're looking at the _0 specific rules or the specific _0 erm _1 features that are at play here
okay
so it 's not about mistakes or anything _0 and it 's going to be _0 used for er scientific purposes for linguistics _0 erm it 's aiming for one million _0 words of english _0 erm which is about one hundred forty hours of recorded conversations
hm okay
oh
erm and that will be available as a resource for _0 linguists _0 erm _2 by two thousand and eight probably _1
okay
so
how p_non-natives talk together
okay
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yeah
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and
and how they understand each other @@@@
no
yeah but x
but that that 's really true when we use words which are incorrect _0 normally a- all the people who are not natives they they understand it
they understand it
yeah
yeah
they just nod and and that 's it you know _0 although the word is not correct but
true
who cares
yeah
first of all and
or we switch to german
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yeah right or we switch @@
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so thank you very much @@
no no no do n't switch
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no _0
no no no @
some practice for you no
sh-
yeah ok- o- that could be fine but _1 i i i used to to talk german rather well but er
we could we could confuse them _0
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oh yeah
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yeah just just
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yeah then we so we just add some german words to the the the english language
the memories
yeah right
okay
would you like to have coffee
er tea please
or water tea
tea
she 's yeah more the
ah _0
f_ja f_ja _0 f_hab f_ich f_schon
we have er blue we have blue tea
f_sag f_es f_mir f_wenn f_du f_noch f_heisses f_wasser f_brauchst
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blue tea
which one
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f_sag f_dem a_[firstname1] f_wir f_brauchen f_den blue tea
blue tea
blue tea
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coffee
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for you
yes please _0
thank you _2
a_[S1] f_sie f_haben f_auch f_noch f_keinen f_gell
switch off my phone
f_nein
f_darf f_ich f_eh
f_gerne f_dankeschoen
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you have a chicken
f_weil f_wenn f_ich f_patze f_dann f_patze f_ich f_gleich f_xx
oh my phone not my chickens
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okay sorry
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chickens _0 i heard that before _0 chickens _0
f_dankeschoen _0
chickens _0
yeah that 's what _0 a_[firstname1] told me yesterday chickens xx
aha in the back
three chickens in the back of the car
ah yeah
mhm
oh i did n't remember
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you did n't hear it
no _0
no
i was n't listen to that _1 remark _1
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xxx to get blue tea @@
yeah yeah @@@@
xxx
red tea is also open _0
x
wh- which
red tea
red tea _0 red tea _0
red
no red tea could the could the rooibos tea
exactly
red tea
what
red tea could be rooibos _0
oh
rooibush tea
yeah yeah
yeah rooibos
x yeah _1
yeah rooibos _0 could be x _1 f_xxx f_xxxxx f_ja _1
is it allowed to take off my jacket
yes _1 just feel yourself at home _3 a_[S2] as long as you sell enough @@@@@@
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we can take it off
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milk _0
@ _0 yes please
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with gas without gas
er without gas please _3
some more _2 a bit more hm
stir not shake huh
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@ thank you @ _3 so we saw a lot of japanese this morning in er there in in the breakfast room
sure
millions of them
think they all went to the casino yesterday evening @@
yeah
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they were not happy this morning
a_[S2] with or without
the the lo- f_ja f_danke _0
long night
no it 's fine _0 just coffee
f_ja f_ich f_auch f_nicht
okay _2 f_sie f_koennen f_sich f_eh f_nehmen f_wenn f_wenn
f_ja f_ja f_danke _1
f_oder f_wollen f_sie f_mit _0 f_ohne f_gas _1
toilet 's on the erm _0 er toilet erm left-hand x or
pardon me
on left side the toilets _0
yes yes yes
yeah
okay _1
er here
right after the stairs
the stairs up
er the stairs
up the stairs left side
the entrance _7
you had a good rest _2 so far
so far _1 it was a little bit hot in the you know in the hotel room
yeah a_[S4]- a_[S4] said the same
really
yeah
yeah _0
so i opened the window and er
mhm
turned already on the heater maybe
it was
yeah
morning _0
morning _1
f_xxxx
f_xxxxxx
but er _0 well for the rest it was okay _0
mhm mhm _1 and is it very loud there during the night _1
i did n't hear a thing so but i 'm was in the in the inner cir- and in the yeah so we 're in the backyard so _0
mhm
in the back in the backyard
i did n't hear anything so
oh that 's good _0 mhm _0
so er _0 yeah _1 but i er _1 yeah it was warm but er and i also had had er _0 i 'm _0 already suffering _0 three or four days _0 er of a sore throat so y- this evening _0
mhm
at the
mhm
yesterday evening _1 due to the talking yeah
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laughing
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and the laughing
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yeah yeah mhm
so er _0 but i ta- i took a small aspirin and i think within er
in the morning
within within fifteen minutes i was completely gone so _1
very good
when x when there is such a dry heat
yeah mhm
out of the dry air in in
yeah
the room
yeah
then it 's that 's bad _0
but the beds were perfect in the hotel yeah _0
yah
it 's a good good bed _0 it 's a _2
mhm
very good _0
yeah _2
mhm _0 the agenda for for today will be we will go _0 er through all the _0 er sales review and so on and so on and so on and when we come to the point of er a_[thing2] _0 a_[firstname1] will join us
okay _0
to do er _0 the presentation of a_[thing2] and then afterwards we talk
on baby and the baby sheep
right
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takes just two hours
do n't worry
and
they ask for the door you know
which door
the highlight _0
the door we mentioned the new door
your new door
ah the new door @@@@@
xxxxxx
yeah we also wanted to to have the discussion on which car we are er
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i completely forgot it already
okay
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oh by the way this is the new door
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yeah it looks great but @@
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and _1 er today we also show you some new
yeah
er products _0
great _0
er _1 for your _0 further investigation or review and then we can _0 see _1 or whether you 'll _2 welcome one or the other product _0
okay
yeah
yeah _1 and and it 's er do you already have an an overview on on er the the licence sheets for er
yeah sure
coming year
mhm
mhm _1 we 've
as well as well
the news presentation we have
mhm
okay great
that for you as well
mhm mhm
it 's
f_die f_machen f_wir f_noch f_gell f_machst f_du f_ja f_ja
f_ja
before _0
yeah yeah
before we start with the a_[thing2]
just yeah yeah _0 because it 's it 's yah _1 when you are doing all this normal business er _1
so maybe also we talk about the plan before we _0 we er _0
we can do this as well yeah yeah and keep a_[thing2] for er _0
introduce a_[thing2]
do i have to close the door or xxxxx
for the last xx
yes please
yes no
we _2
yes please _2 mhm _2
er thanks for the _0 tea _2
the blue tea
yeah
@@ _1
i prefer er _0 f_pfefferminze tea
mhm _1
f_kraeuter _0 f_tee
f_kraeutertee _1
f_kraeutertee _11
this is _0 a sheet i prepared
thank you
yeah thank you
er for you with all ex sales data without erm _0 the er the order for xx which just came yesterday and
yeah
it 's not included here so _1 it 's
a_[firstname2] sent you yesterday an order right er
yes she sent it yesterday afternoon
yeah
and erm she told me that it was very _0
it
it 's i have it here _4 it 's around twenty-six thousand euros so she ordered er _0 mickey mouse blister heffalump cars best of a_[org2] and eight packs
and shelf displays i think
shelf displays as well _0
yeah
fifty-four _0
because it 's very important to
for the
to get those yeah
scratch and win promotion _2
yeah
no but a_[firstname3]
because xxx for promotion at this moment and there
worked already with it and _0
yeah _0
it should be fine everything but it 's not included here in this file
no okay yeah _2
yeah concerning stocks we talked about it yesterday _1 i think we have to put more effort in er _0 in stock control ourselves
mhm
what we er what we see is er _0 sometimes we make estimations also now on this activity _0 we make e- est- estimations on on okay er _0 er we think that we can sell four hundred er of these er these promotional items _0
mhm
and now finally the outcome is that we se- will sell at least six hundred _0 and
mhm
and when those things occur _0 you normally _0 should have had _0 more than sufficient stock _0 to _0 m- to continue that promotion and now _0
mhm
the- these things happen _0 and then we have to _0 order _0 and of course yeah you you guys have your production time so that will take at least two weeks
three weeks yeah
yeah
yeah two or three weeks so an- and then finally we are ending up without stocks and that 's
mhm
when and you know lost sales where you have out of stocks it 's a lost sales
mhm
right
so er
mhm mhm
so we also concluded already that we have to one of the tasks we are having now is put more even more _0 focus on on er on stocks and and and rotations _0
mhm mhm
yeah to _0 to er to at least er make sure that we do n't face any out of stocks any more
mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm
cos that 's erm _1
i do n't know er i think we 're
have the right level of stocks
yeah and that 's of course that 's difficult because of all the
available
mhm
the the different lines and er i think you 're you 're you 're guys are facing the same problems as we have _0
right
mhm
every day
it 's er
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yeah every day and and and and accumulated on er
every day
mhm
it 's a play every day
yeah _0 so it 's
incredible _0 mhm
and you never know what
right
how successful er a p_licency will be but er
mhm
mhm mhm
i think it 's wise to at lea- to put more more focus behind it
yeah
mhm mhm mhm
and then that we been doing now
mhm
yeah a_[firstname2]- a_[firstname2] is work- is doing is analyzing it every week _0
mhm
yeah and every week look at stocks and rotations and sales and orders and forecasts _0 but erm _0 especially on the promotional side we have to er to er _0
mhm
get more information out of _0
yeah
out of the market and from the account managers
yeah
mhm mhm _0 and sponge bob is is sold out now or
hm a bit left from standing bags
yeah
we have some
but yeah
i thought er _0
okay
about
twenty-one plus two
yeah three hundred s_sku er
mhm
yeah standard bag
mhm _0 but not a big quantity any more
yeah
but the blisters are all _1 s- sold
mhm _0
yeah _0
yeah _2
okay how could we could through through this meeting erm _0 because i have made a a presentation you can go through it or _0
mhm
do you have your
we can go through it
m- i think a- most of the items er on your agenda will be _0 in here and otherwise we can discuss
mhm
okay then we can we can
mhm
yeah
shall i
go it on it yeah _2
or you you want to discuss the file first _1
we can er also discuss _0
yeah okay
your files and
yeah
and come back to this one no problem _2 thank you _20
thank you very much _4
do you want also an er presentation erm _0 i 've forgotten what your name it
@
xxxxx
a_[S1]
a_[S1]
a_[S1]
no
no
no that 's fine thanks
okay
i 've printed out that 's one for you
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thank you
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well prepared wow
yeah
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it was very heavy in my suitcase but er _0
@@ _0 but there was plenty of room @@
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it 's always too less _1 erm well yeah you have also
a_[S2] what what you are seeing here _0 these are our sales to you
i know i know but i 'm checking with my system
mhm mhm
okay
okay
okay
mhm
the the thing is what i found out _0 looking at figures
yeah
what i found out our p_in-market sales is is thirty-five per cent above last year _1
okay
mhm
and but when i looked at the information i 've got _0 from from a buying point of view
mhm
i saw that we were on the same er at the same level as last year _0 but now i 'm looking here at these figures _0 and here i see that we 're not on the same level so i 'm
mhm
now questioning my own er buying er sales figure so there must be something wrong in the system
mhm
mhm _0 so you have
in m- in our system
mhm
you have lower figures than
yeah far lower
this
okay
so er i was _0 that 's also i w- i was really _0 looking into it and i
mhm
i could n't find a solution why the difference was so huge _1
mhm
cos i what i saw is a a growth of thirty-five per cent in market
mhm _0
mhm
and a buying value _1 exactly the same as last year and i could n't match that _0 also not looking at stocks because there was not a big difference in stock level
yeah
mhm
so i was really thinking hey how is this possible and also _0 when you l- look at this slide @ _0 it 's erm it 's not in the presentation but
mhm
mhm
when you look at this slide this is the er the absolute _0 sales per period
mhm
so that 's er that 's above last year above last year above last year above last year above last year this one okay that was last year 's _0
they 're just pi- pieces
mhm
er a_[org3] er loading in
delivery mhm
delivery so that was below _0 but again above above
mhm
and when i look then at the
buying
the buying _0 er tha- that 's that 's this _0 and there okay tha- that 's cumulative but
mhm
er
the indexes were yeah
you know the the indexes are are _0
mhm
o- okay sometimes good but sometimes very worse and and
mhm
i couldn- i could n't match that _0 so but now _0
mhm
er some some
we are above
something something is wrong in er in in er in our system somewhere you know at least in ou- in my buying figures
compared to last year
mhm
mhm
mhm mhm _0 no we increased we increased the _1 the buying volume compared to last year b-
yeah
by about sixty thousand _0 sixty thousand euros f_was f_haben f_wir f_zweitausendfuenf _1
yeah because _0 two thousand five we had two hundred and seventy thousand _0
yeah right
in total we see
in total year and now we are on two hundred seventy-seven
in total we see it here and and
yeah
so and we still have
hm
right some
four
x and then it 's
four months to go
october
some
october order was twenty-six thousand so that that 's
yeah
yeah
four months left so _0 and and erm _1
and without the order of yesterday and so on
we will probably end up
that 's without er without yeah yeah
yeah
to meet the plan you know so then you can see the growth
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah _0
so we have around three hundred now including october order _0 and then still
yeah
november december
november december so
yeah
yeah
so we 'll match
you should match the plan more or less
we will match the plan yeah _0
right
this i was reading and think how was this possible and er
yeah
mhm mhm mhm mhm @@@@
mhm
did we do something wrong with invoicing or whatever so er _0
mhm
that 's an er _0 great task for me to check
or did sponge bob duplicate it in the warehouse @@
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because there is xx
he
it 's a naughty guy yeah so you never know
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because
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sponge bob in the underwear
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yeah right
maybe without underwear
that could have been an explanation to that @@@@@@@@@
yeah we have we have we how have this new item it 's it 's baby sponge bob
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yeah right @@@ the baby the baby
baby s_b baby s_c and baby sponge bob
yes
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and baby worm
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worm
okay worm mhm
worm yeah
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okay
okay _0 erm well here you can see er _0 the agenda er i we we will talk about p_in-market sales s_iri figures er _0
mhm
a- activities of er two thousand six _0 er what we 're er are going to do in er yeah next year and what we _0 yeah estimate _0
mhm
er
mhm
in sales x x _0 xx xx _0
mhm _2
erm well on er the this page you can see the p_in-market sales and here erm _0 er you can see in the first table erm the figures of two thousand and five _0 erm _0 till september
mhm
mhm _0
and i have accumulated that to er the total of quarter one er quarter two and quarter three _0 and erm the last column erm are figures of er er on dispensers _1
mhm
mhm _0
and then you can see _0 how many dispensers we have sold er in two thousand five _0 till this moment
but just the first three quarters _0 it 's total dispen- dispensers of the first three quarters mhm
dispensers
yeah _1 erm and the second table you can see er the figures of _0 yeah of the dispensers er for this year _0 and there you can see that we have an increase of er thirty per cent _2 if you _0 er compare _0 two thousand five x xxx
so the last column is two thousand six _0 january to
this er table 's er two thousand six and this one is er two thousand five yeah
f_ach f_so then the this x okay got it mhm _1
mhm _0
and if you erm _0 er should take out a_[org3]
mhm
and the x is much er much higher _0 but er _0 i i think it 's still okay here _2
mhm _1 and are highs i- f_also s_aah is a_[org3]
but i read that
yeah
here
okay
yeah sorry yeah _1 that 's a_[org3]
mhm _3
and i 've made some items er _0 grey or invisible
mhm
er and erm that are the yeah that are the items which are not er dispenser which can also see that er _0 erm that there is higher sales in er fruit er refill packs and also with the _0 cola blisters _0 erm i hope you can er read it because it 's really invisible _0
mhm
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but last year erm _0 we have sold thirteen hundred er fruit refill blisters _0 and this year erm yeah we have sold _0 more than four thousand
four thousand
mhm
but that 's also an high increase hh and i think that has to do _0
mhm
yeah with more distribution and er with er placing in the b- the best place
you had cola as a xxx as well yeah
yeah we have introduced the cola b- er blister _2 or we 've sold till this moment er yeah more than er one thousand erm
mhm _5
that 's our s_sku
the minis they are more or less erm _0 gone
the minis yeah yeah but i think erm
but with the last order you 're you ordered er
small quantity
minis
yeah
yeah a small quantity
from the stand-up bags
from the stand-up bags yes _0
okay
cos i was i was _0
er the
surprised
surprised because erm _0
yeah
during the whole year there was no order
yeah
but i think that hh and
we had a lot of stocks
mhm
still from last year on that product _0
yeah
and you know er when er when we have one customer ordering a product we just order it er it 's _0
mhm
yeah
it 's also our bit of service er to customer so _0
hm
mhm
i think you have er _0 created a new stand-up blister _0
yeah
er which will replace er w- which will replace er the stand-up bags yeah
mhm
the stand-up yeah
the stand-up bag and then probably xxx
yeah
and i think we will yeah we will follow that because er
mhm
er this look is more uniformity the er _0 uniformity in the shelves of the
yeah
mhm
blisters _0 and then yeah we think about er what we will do with the stand-up blister but i think _0 yeah _0 we we can kick it off er _0 can kick out the st-
the stand-up bag you mean
yeah
mhm
the stand-up bag with the minis
yeah
yeah yeah yeah
yeah
i mean
no
because if if you
the stand-up bag should should fade out
mhm okay yeah
more or less _0
yeah _0 because if we have no stand-up bags any more that 's irrational
no there is no time pressure behind but
yeah
yeah
erm
because we probably have enough foil but when it 's
in a few months they just they just faded yeah
yeah
when it 's gone then _0
yeah _0
we 're also x x x not prepared
and what dates er _0 do you want to er kick up only stand-up bags _0 have you prepare er erm one special _0 er event or xx xx or xxx okay
no we will we will
no we 're flexible
right right yeah mhm
in all the countries we can discuss it as as soon you er would like to have them _0
yeah
yeah
because to _0
okay
we have to discuss if you er would like to have the same bar code or if you would like have _0 another bar code
okay
depends on your system as well
yeah _1 yeah _1 okay
hm the th- the thirteen per cent increase in in that 's only in blisters so that 's excluding er the refills
yeah
and that 's _0 until _0 september
yeah _0
so that 's comparable figures september september
yeah it 's re- yeah
yeah _2 there 's a double dispenser also _0 but not the dispensers in the a_[thing3] or in a_[thing4] but er
yeah yeah mhm
only the dispensers _3
but in food our main customers are still a_[org4] _1
a_[org4] yes
and a_[org5]
a_[org5] and some er members of er a_[org6] _1
aha okay
and some er er and a_[org7] _1
here
yeah
a_[org6] just in one _0 this this fun meter
yeah also in as an assortment er product but also in er in now in the _0
in shelf
in this test we 're doing _0 this is very successful er by the way
yeah
mhm mhm _0
it 's that fun and food er _2 project
yeah
but you have _0 asked me to print out er _0 our figures of er sales per customer and per part
mhm
mhm
there you can see which erm _1
mhm
which clients er _0 erm
and a_[org5] _0 these are are _0 the the the name of the of the shops _0 are _0
yeah
are a_[org5]
yeah
yeah it 's called a_[org5]
okay _0 mhm
and these er but we are we do n't have distribution they are through the head office because they are _0 agai- against mo- yeah via wholesalers
but via a wholesaler
yeah right mhm _0 via the racks
yeah
mhm mhm
and er we have some i think we we have we brought some s_iri figures as well to sh- to _0
yeah
show you rotations
yeah
mhm
they are _0
mhm
er enormous so er
mhm _0 mhm mhm
it 's er
for us _0 and that 's also in the plan for next year _0 for us it 's it 's key to er to get the
the displays
to get displays in
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
it 's it 's all a matter of s_pos it 's er dominance dominance dominance
mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm
mhm
no you can not compare the rotation out of shelf and and
no
it 's here what i what i talked
on on the display
what i s- what i told a_[firstname1] yesterday rotations out of the shelf _0 we see now an increase f- especially at a_[org4] because we
mhm
we got more dominance there we had two _0
mhm
two facings now we in av- we have in average four facings _0
mhm
er and you see the rotation go _0 per store from four to seven
mhm
and there 's every-
per week _0 mhm mhm
per week so there 's everything to do with
mhm
with with dominance yeah with presence _0
mhm
er but when you compare that to a to a to a display where you put a
mhm
mhm
a half half wheel in the in the store
then you have twenty and more
the- then yeah more than more than twenty
yeah yeah yeah yeah mhm
it 's i think it 's between twenty and forty er depending on the store
mhm
mhm mhm mhm mhm
so you really can accelerate sales by putting in er
mhm
mhm _0 mhm
these er _0 these old a_[org1] er
yeah right mhm
and a_[thing5] displays @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
you 're right
a_[thing5] yeah
yeah
mhm mhm _2 mhm
hm yeah
these these figures so t- to go back to your
yeah
yeah
erm the two thousand and five and two thousand and six figure _0 the two thousand and five is the total year
that 's that 's total it 's it 's total the whole year yeah and the total two thousand six is erm
ah okay
okay
including september
and it 's total year
and that 's total year yeah
and it 's until september
it 's not xx mhm
so that 's _0 three months less
mhm that 's true
okay _1
so and with dispensers you can see that we _0 are already above
mhm
yeah
last year _0 and even on track _0 according to our plan
mhm _1
the only thing is yeah with the a_[thing1] minis we discussed already and a_[thing4] _1 there were no
yeah
no sales of a_[thing4] _2 this year so far _12
with this year there were all sorts of good licence to er _0 of the erm cars was a good licence and er best of a_[org2] i think it 's also er xx good
the cars yeah
mhm
best of a_[org2] it 's
yeah _0
selling quite well _0
yeah
er at least
so far yeah
at least the dispenser development matches with er with our p_in-market sales because when i _0 p_recalculated _0 we 'll end up between one hundred and thirty and one hundred and thirty-five index
mhm
mhm
so and that matches with my p_in-market sales
mhm
mhm
mhm
okay _0 yeah _2
yeah well _0 at least that 's that 's correct @
yeah
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and it was also er mis- er nearly thirty thousand mickey and minnie mouse _0 in the first line which is for _0 for the santa claus bag
yeah
mhm _0
and the single refills as well
i brought one back with me so i can show you @@@ _0
oh really oh that 's great
it 's in my suitcase but
mhm
it 's a surprise for er _1 a_[firstname4]
mhm
will you dare open it @@ the suitcase @@
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erm
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the surprising suitcase er yeah and then the second er page _1
yeah
of this file you have all the different _0 assortments so you can _0
yeah
we can check _1 how many pieces of dispensers per assortment you ordered _0 so there was the promotion _0 the x xx promo- _0 promotion and in the second quarter of cars _2
yeah _0
and just open season _0 is _0 left _1
yeah
so far
and my question was er do you know when er they release the s_dvds and er _0
yeah
because the film
ah the s_dv s_d
yeah _0 the film release is in october i thought _1
yeah
the s_dvd no we have to _1 ask _2
that 's open season _1
mhm _1 i saw it product
yeah _4
xx er it 's all with the displays
yeah
fifth of october yeah
in the sixty forty displays
but we can check it then with _10
there i 've point out erm erm the p_in-market sales per customer so
mhm
then _0 i think _1 was interested in that in _1 we can through it but _0 maybe yeah it 's more for you er _0 erm _0 for your information you want it
mhm
mhm _0
i think it 's also _0 perhaps it 's w- it 's also wise just to s- to to send this
yeah every
by er
in advance
yeah
in advance but also er _0 erm _0 digital so that you can make some some sorts on er
mhm
yeah
mhm
yeah
mhm
the bigger _0
ooph
the bigger
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is it too little @ a_[S3] i 'm sorry
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no no no that ca n't be becau- we er yesterday we came to the conclusion that you were still not too old so
yeah
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these are the a_[org8] members
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just a_[org8] members xx er hopefully you can we can see it 's er a_[org8] _1 that 's the total organization and here you have a specification of the members of a_[org8] _0 a_[org8]
ah okay _0 mhm
and there you can see
under point thirty-nine
yeah _4 the a_[org9] er
aha a_[org9]
great
great system we 're having no
yeah
poah
mhm
it 's _0 pf _1
so these all belongs to a_[org8]
mhm
yeah _1 which ha- no which have some of those _0 only the the members which are now selling a_[thing1] _1 so you can see erm _2 a_[org9] a_[org4] _1
mhm _1 and then there 's still again a_[org8]- a_[org8] _0
xx
or is this the the total
that 's the total yeah that 's that 's sum of
of these ones
yeah
okay
that 's correct _0
mhm _9 mhm _3 and that 's always in pieces _0 i guess
yeah it 's s_sku _0
mhm
s_sku
yeah
mhm _26
so the biggest client in food is a_[org8] which is an er buying organization okay
it 's a buyer organization and i think they have fourteen members
mhm
and out of these fourteen members we are supplying one two three four five _0 six seven
mhm _0
seven members _0 do have the products and distribution
yeah
mhm _0
mhm a_[org10] is the cash and carry er one
yeah _0 a_[org10] is a cash and carry organization _1
a_[org10] mhm _3
hh but a lot of a lot of things in holland are changing _0 you know the _1 we had this a_[org11] organization
mhm
and it 's falling apart _0
hm
really falling apart they had three formulas _0 now they they sold out er the a_[org12] formula they sold out the a_[org6]- no the a_[org13] _0 hhh _0 and i think from the whole organization that was two years ago it was more than one thousand stores and i think they will end up with
three hundred and sixty-one
three hundred and sixty
yeah
something like that _1 and the rest has been sold to some members of a_[org8] to some a_[org3]- er _0 to to a_[org3] to a_[org14] _0 so they are really erm _1 r- really have are suffering now
mhm
so the yeah a_[org13] will disappear
mhm _0
mhm _0
a lot of changes are now in the in the landscape of er holland er _1 going on with the stores _0 yeah that 's er _1
but a_[org6] _0 belongs to a_[org11]
yeah but that 's now
okay and and they will remain
erm nobody knows but there 's _0
okay
hh i think they they will remain but i they wo n't n- they will not be powerful enough to succeed
m-
mhm
just _0 with one formula or only with three hundred sixty stores so they will _0
mhm
actively search for new p_partnershipping and perhaps where one or two members out of the a_[org8] er organization
mhm mhm
and er _0 you know the thing is a_[org8] in holland _0 is a buying organization as she said she she said yourself _0
mhm
and they have _0 fourteen or fifteen members
mhm
but those members are getting bigger and bigger but
mhm
the also what happens now is that they _0 really come in each others region _0
mhm
in in the older days they had their own region _0 and they were th- more or less they are the the the king of their region
yeah yeah yeah yeah
but now when by by taking over all the the stores from a_[org11] _0 they enter each others re- they mix up
they mix up
they really mix up mhm
so now they have the same _0 buying er buying erm er prices er
mhm
mhm
so they know exactly
mhm
what their competitor is doing in their region
mhm mhm
so that that will now or t- today or tomorrow will change _0 and er i think one or some some a_[org8] members will step out _0
mhm mhm
mhm
and then perhaps we will find we will get a new cooperation with a_[org11] yeah nobody knows but that 's
yeah yeah yeah yeah _0
mhm
something will happen _0 cos
but some some kind of concentration will
yeah and and a new buying organization will will be set up i think
follow
mhm mhm
but okay er it 's not for sure but _0 this situation ca n't last forever
mhm
right i that 's not what i what i expect but er _1 hh and x
but a_[ORG3] is still the strongest
a_[org3] and it 's doing very well _0 a_[org3] is growing
mhm
and they started off this price war huh three years ago two and a half two er two and a half three years ago _0 and they are gaining market share
mhm
i think they now have _0 nearly twenty-nine per cent market share
wow mhm _0
and er _0 but er the thing now is in holland that nobody that that that being _0 in the trade and working with the trade _0 er it 's it has never been _0 er er as tough _0 and hard as as er as it is now you know _1 er i talked yest- no er it what i s- last week i talk to a_[firstname5] a_[lastname5]
mhm
er concerning the a_[thing6] er situation _0 and they also confirm that that er _0 you make an appointment
mhm
and you have an agreement with a_[org3] _0 and erm _0 er and you confirm that agreement the day after _0 and then a week later they just say no _0 we do n't have an agreement er we will do things totally different _0
really
mhm
poah
and you know imagine yeah whe- when you 're on the table you have your negotiations _0 it 's also part of er you know you you 've have emotions it 's it 's the m- the moment yeah you 're you always try to seek the moment
mhm
and okay and then you finalize your discussion you have an agreement _0 put it on paper _0 and a week later _0 when they are really _0 then then they sit back _0 look at the agreement _0 become more rational again and say no we ai n't gon na do it _0 and they just _0 wipe it off the table and er and they do it constantly
mhm mhm
so it 's er they dictate now what happens
mhm
what what you also see _0 er especially with a_[org3] _0 hh everyone who now thinks that he can bring in a new brand
mhm
the first a- question they ask _0 er can we get it at private label _1
mhm
mhm
and erm _0 and they when you look at er in the in the when you now look in the confectionery shelf
mhm
i think _0 forty per cent of all the s_skus
is private label
is private label _1 and it 's er _0 and it 's only twenty-four per cent of the total sales
yeah
so and what you see is it does n't bring anything
yeah
th- the market is is is is minus two
yeah yeah yeah
mhm mhm mhm
so the market is down
er and it has to do with prices of course private labels are
mhm
mhm
a little bit cheaper than brands _0
mhm
i did n't it does n't bring anything
mhm
but yeah they are telling er to the trade hey er this is this is the way _0 the only way to er to differentiate _0 er compared to the er the other er formulas _0 and
mhm
now well everyone has its private label huh a_[org6]- a_[org6] they all they all go into private label
mhm
the- they all have their own private label range
their own private
they all have their private label range
mhm mhm mhm mhm
so bringing in a new new concept bringing in new brands _0
mhm
is
mhm
is getting more and more difficult
difficult mhm mhm mhm
again er especially when when you have _0 let 's say o- o- one product yeah let 's say o- one very strong product _0
mhm
we have one of th- one st- very one very strong product that 's the a_[org15] lollipop _0
mhm
and er i think the moment we we _0 go to them and say okay we change the design _0 they will automatically say okay _0 change the design and get it into my pri- into private label and we ai n't gon na do that because
mhm
doing that means that you will kill yourself because then they will immediately er
yeah yeah yeah yeah
screw you and erm
mhm
but that 's that 's that 's at thi- this moment er the situation everyone i- is i- into private labels _0
mhm
mhm
and the brands are really suffering
mhm
really suffering
mhm and do you also experience that the buyers _0 change very often very regularly
yeah
what you especially see in the sugar confectionery area that the buyers change a lot _0
that 's also
but also that the sugar confectionery area is now an area _0 where they er _0 er er only only use let 's say s- starting buyers so not not really
mhm
mhm
erm er sophisticated ones with a lot of knowledge
sophisticated ones
mhm
mhm
erm _0 and it i think it has everything to do with with the low involvement of of sugar confectionery
mhm
you know it 's erm _0 er when you really tal- when you talk about erm er bread or whatever _0 erm _0 people are always very interested in in in in f- in f- in in f- real food products
mhm
you know it 's there is a real added value in there and sugar confectionery er what can you do wrong huh you know that 's a little bit the feeling
mhm
mhm
mhm mhm
mhm
so okay just place a _0 er er wh- when you look at a_[org3] _0 there 's this guy he 's called a_[firstname6] a_[lastname6] _1 he had no experience whatsoever in sugar confectionery he came out of the the the booth er business _0
mhm
and er and he 's responsible for twenty-nine per cent of the sugar confectionery market in holland _0 and he does n't know a thing
mhm
mhm mhm mhm
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it 's unbelievable
yeah
and they just hh but okay y- you know what it is huh with the sugar confectionery when you _0 when place a product _0 you sell it _0 yeah because it 's in it 's it 's still ninety per cent it 's impulse
mhm
mhm
so er there is not a real _0 yeah _0 added value to er to sugar confectionery and that 's er
mhm mhm
and that 's that 's negative that 's a downside of of er of the _0 or that 's a negative in- er influence on the market because er _1
mhm
yeah selling in a new concept it 's getting more and more difficult
mhm
i i had a erm _0 a discussion _1 er the day before yesterday _0 er we went to a_[org7] _0 and er we have this erm _0 fun in food concept
mhm
and we started this fun in food concept at at erm _0 er at a_[org7] _0 and the results were very positive _1 yeah i think we sold in average _0 er and it was a combination of a_[thing1] _0 with some other novelty products
mhm
a fun meter
mhm
yeah the fun meter _0 and i think we in average we sold thirty euros a week _0 er in sales
mhm
and the rotations were b- betw- between four and seven _0 a week
mhm
and so the result were very good _1 and er and _1 i had a discussion with a buyer _0 er the day before yesterday and er _0 and i told him okay er yeah we tested this _0 er we tested this at at er ten stores and you said in the beginning okay when the results are very good _0 you we would er x
expand
expand to do to do the distribution to t- the one hundred stores
the distribution mhm
mhm
mhm
you are having
mhm _0
and then he said no _0 no no no we ai n't gon na do that _0 and i said why not he said because the rotations are too low _1 and i said okay _0 wh- what do you mean _0 er he said no i need at least rotations of all the products _0 of six seven _0 because they are competing with other _0 er sugar confectionery products _0 and then i told him no you see it totally wrong _0 the whole thing is _0 that this sales _0 is additional sales
mhm
cos when you buy er when you when you look at your shopping list _0 you you put down candy there 's not there 's not the brand name so you put down candy _0
mhm
when you 're in front of the shelf _0 you buy a bag of candy and then all of a sudden you see a novelty product
mhm
mhm
and you buy that novelty product as well
mhm
you ai n't gon na make a choice between a novelty product and candy
mhm
so you will always buy the candy when it 's on your list _0 and when you see the novelty
mhm
you buy that just for fun
mhm mhm mhm
mhm
okay and automatically the rotations will be lower _0 yeah because you wo n't buy each day _0 er a a novelty product _0 but when you sell the novelty product _0 it 's one hundred per cent additional sales
mhm _0 mhm
one hundred per cent additional sales when do n't place it over there _0 you ai n't gon na sell it
mhm
you know _0 and this guy he kept on looking at me i- i- if it 's all water burning i thought hey er
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and and _1 and i tried to explain it again and at the end i think he understood the message
mhm
but he he still was er _0 okay then er well okay we first have to look further then you know er just er _1
mhm
mhm
mhm
unbelievable this _0 this perception on on er still well rotations are important and er _0
mhm
and this meter cost money you know and er
mhm
mhm mhm
and _1 a- and when you explain okay it 's additional
mhm
mhm
it 's one hundred per cent additional _0
mhm mhm
you see them think _1 er thinking but but at the end
mhm
mhm
no action
mhm
you know and okay now we said okay will continue _0
mhm
with ten new stores and we do it just by er we we just do it ourselves so we er ai n't gon na use your logistical system
mhm
we just go do do it ourselves to prove _0 er that we are totally wro- er right _0 and we we add ten new stores to it to er to really come up with er
so you place the goods there
i place the goods there yeah _0
you merchandise
we merchandise the goods there _0
the goods there
and it 's not via their
it 's not via their warehouse
warehouse or via their system
no _0
mhm
and is it just in a_[org7] _0 er stores
it 's just in a_[org7] _0 and we had _0 we had a deal with a_[org13]
mhm
to do it at a_[org13] as well but then _0 er a_[org13] was sold out and er and it disappeared so er yeah that 's a good er it was a good discussion yeah @@@@@@@
a_[org13] will disappear @
mhm
yeah @@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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yeah
yeah we have good agreement yes very good agreement we 're also making a private label for a_[org13] and er it 's _0
mhm
it 's a lot of money involved there and now they 're _0 they disappear so it 's er
mhm
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shit happens
mhm _1
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but i 'm sorry i in- interrupted you when er _4
oh no no that 's okay
and you have some also for the the the same figures but then in value and yeah i i will give it to you for your er _0
aha okay
mhm
er _0 value system or something like that but _1
mhm
there are that 's the same figures but then in erm _0 in value
mhm
mhm _0
at amount sales _6
what 's good for us is _0 to have the the figures per account so that we can follow each year whether the account is is growing or not so it 's just to to have _2
yeah
yeah you can also see the
yeah
erm _1
and we can also see that in the s_iri figures here you know later on
a rough mhm mhm a rough idea mhm _11 yeah
mhm
mhm
yeah
yeah _3 no questions er about those _0 papers _2
i will go
yeah okay you can also contact me later on
through it
later and and
yeah _1
good _0 would take too much time
i think i ca n't read it @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ i 'm
and you ca n't read it you just can look at it
yeah
oh
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okay
i will sent you by email so you can make a bigger one
xx
it 's actually a good idea to make the numbers very small
@ to make it very small and then
mhm yeah x
yeah right @@@@@@@
okay i agree i agree
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any question _0 no @@@@@
no hm it 's clear for me
we we 're we
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oh i could
even when there is a xxx
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next time when they 're asking reports
yeah
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yeah
make it even smaller you know
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er i will i will attend the meeting with a magnifying glass
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we 'll say no paper please just
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just bring it on on files @@@
mhm
yeah _2 okay _0 then erm on the next page erm _0 yeah we have er _0 make an estimated of our sales for this year and we think we will end up er with an er _0
mhm
p_in-market sales of er four hundred sixty thousand euros _0 and er
compared to last year we have _0 three hundred and seventy or something _0
i think three hundred sixty
mhm
three hundred seventy
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah i did in the _0 business plan at least _2
mhm
at this moment we have er and now we have an er _0 er a net amount so of _0 three hundred sixty thousand so it 's er well
mhm
mhm
yeah even
mhm mhm
that yeah for a
more or less the same
four mo- er three months to go and er
yeah that 's a-
just half september
that 's that 's again the thirty per cent er _0
yeah
mhm
plus compared to last year
yeah
mhm
yeah
more or less
mhm _2 that 's very good mhm _1
it 's good
yeah
yeah
very good _0
think so
yeah _3
then some s_iri figures _0 erm _0 the first graph er shows you the development of a_[thing1] _0 er within food _0 er from year to year to year
mhm _0
and erm yeah in the in the table you can see the the figures er in your sales and unit sales _0 now we started er _0 with selling a_[thing1] in _0 two thousand five _1 and there you can see that we erm _0 yeah _0 did a good job
mhm
and erm if you now compares the yield date figures er to each other _0 you can see that there 's a negative image but erm that 's yeah that 's because of the l- erm the loss of er a_[org3] er er dispensers
mhm
mhm
and _0 erm _1 we were selling er the dispens- in week twenty till week thirty-six er _0 and the amount er of consumer sales was six- er sixty-seven thousand euros sales _0 so that 's _1 that 's the difference between the _0 the figures
mhm mhm _2
but that 's totally food _0 so that 's erm the this i- inclusive erm yeah the sales of a_[org3] _2 erm _0 the second graph shows you the _0 er also development but then only in blisters _0 and you can see that yeah it was a good er idea to _0 to to erm _0 yeah to take over all the blisters and er _0 focus on blisters instead of standard bags
mhm _5
so the yellows they are _0 the dispensers _0
er the yellow one is the the fruit refill
ah no x
the fruit ref- ah the refill fruit and cola okay
yeah
yeah
and the blues yeah it 's the fruit and cola one and the other one is the
and blue is
the red one is the dispenser
yeah
yeah
mhm _2
now you can see that 's a very positive development yeah
mhm yeah
yeah xxx _6
hm _1
clear
mhm _7 then erm _0 these are here you can see last data of food figures is that er total food
mhm
and er you can compare last four weeks erm of two thousand and five versus the last weeks of two thousand six _0 which are available now
this is august ninth or _0 which _0 x _0 x
twenty-ninth _0
erm which _0 the last thing was something _0 yeah twenty-eight was the second week of july july _0
okay yeah
so you can yeah so you can make a comparison
july august
mhm _3
now if you look at the where the rate of sales xx you can see that there 's an increase of rotation _0 versus n- er last year _3 and if you erm _1 look at the distribution yeah the the difference here is that the yeah the loss of a_[org3] er dispensers
mhm _0
but these are very general figures and yeah it 's _0 i think it 's better to go more in detail or _0 but they er it 's per clients _1 there you can see erm _0 a trend or a development
mhm
mhm _8
on the third line of each table you you can see the _0 that 's the dispenser _0 the a_[org1] f_suikerhoudend f_gestoken f_fruit f_peg f_card
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seventeen _0 gram that 's the that 's the dispenser
mhm yes
the seventeen gram yeah
yeah
mhm _0
and if you compare the
and so there is cola and fruit _1
yeah _0
and it 's _0 the fifty-eight it 's the minis i guess
yeah that 's the standard bag with the minis yeah
mhm
mhm _0
and if you compare now the _0 rotation figures er _0 this year for instance er last year you can see an yeah enormous increase in er _0 in rotation that 's erm _0 because of the _0 displays in food
mhm
mhm _0 that 's true _18
hh and according your experience once you get a display er placed
mhm
will it stay there or is it just for a few months it 's it 's very
yeah
yes _0 i i think it is just for a few _0 months weeks
aha and then it disappear
yeah
okay
because when you go to the figure of a_[org5] you can see that the distribution now _0 has er decreased and er so we have to _0
mhm
erm to go back to the stores and erm
mhm
once again
yeah
mhm
mhm mhm
and they inform you when they erm put away yeah it 's just throw it away or i do n't know _0
no
no
no they just
mhm mhm
yeah
put it somewhere
yeah
tha-
but there are plac-
that 's also why we said that we have to look more into especially in those stores where where it 's more seasonal _0 that we have to look into the carton ones because the investment in this this a_[thing5] is is er extremely high
mhm
mhm
it 's xxx images it 's like in in france no
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mhm
and
yeah they just put it down and and after s- six or eight weeks er perhaps they reorder
mhm
and then after that per- after a period of sixteen weeks they kick it out and then they just throw it in the garbage or whatever
mhm it happens xxxx
mhm mhm
and that 's a waste of money
yeah sure
mhm mhm
so it 's it 's far better then to use the carton ones and erm
yeah
mhm
because when they are gone then they okay
yeah
when they are gone okay that 's it 's made for that
mhm
throw it away mhm that 's true
yeah
yeah
mhm
so we 've received er the samples of the carton and they are now standing
ah yeah you received everything yeah mhm
yeah
yeah in our showroom and yeah we 've passed our comment and
mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm
to go
mhm
to food stores and erm _0 yeah _0 er let them see the results of a_[org5] and _0
mhm
try to get a distribution of er those cartons
mhm
mhm mhm _7 right
but yeah that i- it 's triple the sales yeah placing it er in a week in a week 's time placing displays compared to er sales out of shelf _1 that 's thirteen compared to four _0
yeah
so that 's er
mhm mhm mhm _15 and that 's really the average we have in in other countries as well
i mean it
yeah th- three times
if we if we s- yah if we sell out _0 out of shelf _0 compared to the to display _4
mhm
mhm _2
there you can see the the last x of a_[org6] _1 erm _3 okay the the erm _1 the number of shops is er what we already told you _0 around er three hundred and sixty _0 and sixty-five shops are now selling a_[thing1] and that 's erm _0 also through er wholesalers _3
most of them through or all of them
all
all of them i think
through wholesalers okay
a_[org6]
yeah
erm _0 what what we did _0 here is that we went to a_[org6] stores ourselves
mhm
what i told you and also _0
mhm
we went to the wholesalers
mhm about the delivery building
and and and tell them okay _0 we will make distribution _0 er you can make distribution yourself and you have to do the deliveries
mhm
because
mhm
through head office we are not able er to get it through
to enter mhm
and er okay that resulted in er _0 in sixty-five stores _0 that of a_[org6]
mhm _0
er so that 's er _0 yeah i think that 's a good result
yeah
mhm mhm
yeah
the for er _0 for the first year er doing it like this and er
mhm _0
and rotations er _0 a_[org6] er the rotations are a little bit less than in er @ in other stores but er l- l- between seven and eleven _0
mhm
okay it 's er _1 it 's reasonably _0 reasonable
mhm and who is doing the merchandising _0 there _0 the the wholesaler is doing everything
er the the the wholesalers is do- yeah _0 the wholesalers
they are allowed to enter the shop and and
yeah
yeah
okay
you know these er the a_[org6] has three hundred and sixty stores i think _0 fifty per cent of those stores are owned by a_[org11]
mhm
and the other fifty per cent i- are independent er store owners
mhm
and so we go to the independent ones
mhm
and the independent _0 store owners are allowed _0 to buy i think between five and ten per cent of the turnover _0 not through a_[org11] organization but elsewhere _1 and so er the the a_[org15] this o- the that 's one of the wholesalers _0 who actually goes to a_[org6] also with other products
mhm
and _0 he also takes our products with him as well
mhm _1
we are now we are now having this guy _0 called a_[org16] _0 and it 's it 's an i think it 's an an er an austrian organization who 's entering the dutch market with their
a_[org16]
a_[org16]
a_[org16] _0
you know him
_2
hm
maybe we can ask a_[firstname1] but _1 i 've never heard it _0 no
it 's a wholesaler and he sells all kinds of things now in supermarkets in holland _1 i think he 's from austria _0
a_[org16]
yeah
a_[org16]
yeah _0 a_[org16] _1 okay
it 's s_[org16] or
yeah s_[org16] i think
a_[org16]
aha _0 a_[org16]
yeah _0 but _0
hm
never mind _1
yeah
mhm _1
so a_[org15] is one wholesaler
yeah
a_[org15] is one wholesaler but it 's not only _0 this the here is a_[org15] only mentioned but i i 've a- there 's also a_[org17] xx something _0
mhm
and er there will be a_[org18] xx something but a_[org15] is the _0
mhm
er the one who 's dealing the most with the because we what we also said is that we selected _0 some of the wholesalers
mhm
we wanted to work with
mhm
because when you do things like this _0
mhm
and and when you make distribution in a supermarket and you bring it to _0 er let 's say a more _0 of our less erm _0 er well-organized er wholesaler
mhm
you will lose the business anyhow so er you make hh _0
yeah hm that 's true
so we we selected the three wholesalers in the northern part of holland and erm _0 we want to actively work with them _0 that 's also the _0 part of the relationship _0 you can only do it when you say okay we work actively w- with with with a project like this _1
mhm
mhm
and very closely
and very closely
yeah
mhm _2
our account manager a_[firstname7] a_[lastname7] there is er he has a good relationship there with er
mhm
those guys _3 and also it 's not only the _0 it 's not only er the a_[thing1] displays he is s- selling because _0 he also we we you know we also have this this general rack _1 er where a_[thing1] is part of you know it 'll also also a_[thing7] products involved as well _0
mhm
mhm
mhm
and he _0 er he made the same deal with er with a_[org15] _0 the with their one one sales rep of a_[org15] that he could actually sell in _0 those general racks _0 at a_[org6] as well _0 so er i think _0
mhm
the sixty-five shops it 's not only the a_[thing1] rack but that 's also some of them will have the general rack
mhm
mhm mhm mhm mhm _0
so
mhm _2 very good _2
we have to do a lot of er _0 erm _0 teaching er teach the trade that novelties can actually sell _0 and that 's er _0 we have to change the the perception of the the buyers that er
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mhm
that it 's not only sugar confectionery which we have to sell out of that er _1 out of the store but that you can sell novelties also
mhm mhm _6
then erm yeah the very good results of a_[org5] and erm yeah you can see the enormous er increase of sales in er euro sales _0
mhm
and erm _0 and you can also see that the rotation is yeah very high _1 twenty-nine week seven seventy-one a week er fifty-eight a week thirty-one a week _1 that 's
a_[org5] is a real family store
mhm
pure
yeah _0
and that 's that 's also what you see on the results _0
mhm
er er _0 rotations of er sixty er @ _0 between sixty and forty a week that 's that 's high
that 's very high
very high
mhm
yeah
mhm _3 and do you have an idea _0 er _0 in how many shops _0 a_[thing1] is _0 in
in forty i think
forty
yeah _0
the number of shops of a_[org5] is four hundred and sixty and erm _0
mhm
the distribution at this moment is ten _1 nine
ten per cent
yeah
and this is direct delivery
no
or _0
also through a wholesaler
also through a wholesaler
yeah
okay _0
but of course we use these figures
yeah
to the buyer
yeah
explaining okay _0 when you do n't wan na have it in the confectionery shelf _1 in a way it 's fine with me _0 but then at least place one display
yeah yeah yeah mhm
and try it during the season _0 place a display with er two hundred s_skus in it and you will sell it in er in four weeks ' time
mhm
mhm mhm
mhm _1
so and er and that 's additional sales _0 so of cour- we er _0 that 's the good thing about market figures and s_iri figures
yeah yeah yeah to have the proof
yeah yeah
to have the yeah
mhm
have the proof and er that it is that it can be sold successfully _0
mhm mhm mhm
mhm _4
and with these results well go to the other food shops and er _0 and also candy er f- toy stores erm yeah _0 to get er other _0 p_displayses there
mhm _2
and and _0 do you have any idea _0 what or how a_[thing8] is doing _0 perfo- or performing
a_[thing8] has a very poor performance
yeah
mhm _0
they erm
still er still declining or
yeah enormously _1 he er _7 i 've got the _6 hhh this is a _1 part of my business review
mhm
@ this is s_iri figures as well _0 but this is a_[thing8] _0 and they had seven point three per cent market share _0
market share
and they are now _0 on five point six
oh
mhm
and the next periods are getting _0 worse and worse and worse _0 so they are really er going down _1 and er _1 this is our a_[thing7] brand
mhm
when we started one point three _0 two point one _0 so there 's a nice growth and
mhm _3
mhm _5 a_[org20] is doing quite good huh mhm _5
private label is big part
yeah _1
very similar to the s_uk _2 in the s_uk you have more than thirty per cent
are you cold
and every big chain has their own private label _0
no no
mhm
thank you
section as well so
it 's okay maybe in on the backside
yeah
yeah _1
you know with private labels all the products which are er let 's say commodity and that 's wine gums what we talked about yesterday _0
yeah
yeah
it 's commodity _0 and why why will you bring it why should you bring it under a private l- of under under a brand
mhm
mhm
when you can also bring it in in a private label
mhm mhm mhm
or use a_[org20] because it 's also er value for money er priced
mhm
mhm mhm mhm
but er yeah okay erm _0 a- all the retailers selling a_[org20] y- you you they all want to be different than others _0 so _0 they they only erm they think that the only way to be different is use private labels _1 yeah put their own br- their own name on it er and er hh yeah _0 okay er
mhm mhm mhm mhm
it 's real threat for brands _0
but the price war in the in the s_uk for example is incredible because _0 er _0 i just recently did some store checks and i saw _0 mainly that the gums and jellies are buy one get one free _0 i mean nobody nobody earns money any more
mhm
you know or just _0 take three out of your choice for one pound so _0 it 's incredible and and every shelf was fully packed with with a _0 incredible _1
yeah
price _0 quotation
this er in in in england er the the market is really under pressure
mhm
especially after the n- let 's say the normal sugar confectionery product _0 and it has a lot to do with the f_obesitas discussion
mhm
yeah and also the government now is really involved of of highly involved in er _0 in er in in getting out the i think they even _0
mhm
will start with stamps on the products saying okay this is a bad product this is a little bit better and this is be- you know with coloring
mhm
mhm
so communication towards the consumer _0 on how many calories _0 are there in this this packaging
mhm
yeah
mhm mhm
and erm i know that we er that our organization is now entering _0 with a whole new wellness _0 er range
mhm
so let 's say sugar-reduced products products with thirty-five per cent less sugar
mhm
mhm
and add vitamins to it _0 or add calcium to it or whatever so _0
mhm
mhm
yeah the the taste of the product must be okay
mhm
er reduce a little bit of sugar so that we that the the the calorie contained will will
mhm
be lower
will yeah
and we add vitamins or we add whatever
mhm
so to make _0 er sugar confectionery a little bit more healthy it will never be healthy
to make it a bit
more h-
healthier
mhm yeah yeah yeah right right
yeah but er it 's _0 l- l- l- less erm _0 er less unhealthy
that 's nasty
mhm mhm _1
but the obesity issue is is not that big in your country is n't it
yeah it 's starting _0
yeah
it 's starting _0 it 's real starting and er you also of of er sugar _0 er sugar-free and p_sugarless products entering the dutch market _1 and the the government is is er there is a lot of _0 publicity a- amongst er f_obesitas as well in holland
mhm
mhm mhm mhm
and erm _0 it 's sort of in in england they try to keep the volume on a high level by making er it one plus one activities
mhm
and erm _0
right
that 's the the only reason why they do it
mhm
but in holland we we see also a lot of er _0 er pub- publications on f_obesitas and one one erm _0
mhm
one out of the four children is already too too heavy _0 and i think okay w- w- we as as _0
mhm
mhm
we as industry we know that it has nothing to do with with eating candies _0 because in holland we alrea- we are _0 i think at least the last five years _0 on an average _0 er candy intake of six kilos a year
mhm
six point two _0 there is no increase in it _0
mhm
so it 's six point two already for ten years _0
mhm
mhm mhm
and children are getting _0 thicker and thicker _0 and that has nothing to do with the with the calorie intake
no no no that 's
in sugar confectionery it has everything to do with movement
yeah yeah
yeah
mhm
they do n't play they do n't sport any more they do n't play any more they sit behind their the desk behind the computer
yeah
yeah
play any more right
mhm
hm
yeah
in front of the computer mhm
and er and playing games
mhm right mhm
instead of going out and er an- and play soccer and er you know and and that 's that 's the m- they do n't burn the calories any more
mhm
mhm mhm mhm
mhm
right _0 mhm
and the whole nutrition not not only the the candies it 's
yeah
it 's not only the it 's er but okay now you know _0
mhm
what they eat the whole day
f- five years ago or ten years ago the government said okay smoking is a bad habit so er everything what had to do with smoking had to kick- be kicked out of the country no advertising _0
mhm
er and now it 's er now it 's that now it 's and then it was _0 er alcohol _0
mhm
yeah
and now it 's sugar confectionery
mhm
mhm
so each time they take another se- another category
mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm in a few years it it 'll it will switch to
in a few years
smoking again
yeah it will switch to smoking again or t- to driving yeah stop driving cars and er _0
yeah yeah yeah
mhm
take public transportation or whatever they they will find out something _0
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
and erm
mhm mhm _0
we 'll see
there are so many er programs on s_tv er how we can er lose weight and
yeah yeah
mhm
that 's also very popular now _0
mhm
b- because it 's a big problem er
mhm
mhm mhm _0
yeah
yeah
and for the for the sugar-free candies it 's then tooth-friendly _0 logo is this erm _0
hh yeah
has this an important issue in _0 in holland
no not no _0 b- the the the that it 's su- _0 i i and that 'll sugar-free is still not important and the feedback _0 and that 's also story y- you know wha- _0 what we are doing on the a_[thing7] is also go more natural try to get
yeah
sugar-reduced products and also add vitamins to it
na-
mhm
yeah
yeah
yeah
and but sugar-free _0 the disadvantage _0 and that 's a- the in the perception of the buyer as well _0 er ninety per cent of the sugar-free products _0 are not that tasty _0
yeah right
so when you take a wine gum
mhm
yeah
er just a normal wine gum _0
mhm
and you compare that with a sugar-free wine gum
yeah
mhm
the sugar-free that 's always a n- a next taste it 's you know an aftertaste which is awful
mhm
mhm
mhm mhm
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah mhm
and and that 's also what the buyers think and that 's also the feedback you 're getting from consumers
mhm
mhm
that 's right
so and er _0
mhm
so the thing is now that people are _0 trying to develop sugar-free candies which actually do taste
mhm
but that 's s- s- still very difficult
mhm
and erm _1
mhm
we have an we have n- we now have an er an er marshmallow _0 a sugar-free marshmallow _0 er and you ca n't taste the difference between the sugar-free one and the sugar-containing one _0
mhm
erm but it 's expensive _0 it 's very expensive
right
there is a
mhm
price difference
it yeah i- it it 's there 's p- price difference of forty per cent
yeah yeah yeah
wow
wow
mhm yeah due to the ingredients of course mhm
you know and then and then you have this consumer price and normally you buy a bag of marshmallows this big
mhm
yeah
yeah
for one and a half euros
right
and now we will try to sell _0 a bag of hundred and fifty grams for one and a half euros you know and and that 's
mhm
mhm
mhm
mhm mhm
hh _0 and there is and then the qu- the big question mark is is is the consumer _0 willing
willing to pay for it
mhm
to pay for it
right right right
and er
maybe a special group _1 but
hh there is also a s- there is aw- there is always a special group who is willing to do that _0
yeah but
on the other hand we also say _1 eating candy everyone knows that eating candy is is erm tha- that it gives calories
calorie
mhm
mhm
and everyone knows that eating candy is not good for your he- for your life or for your for your health as long as you er _0
do n't o-
you ca- you can eat candy today
mhm
mhm
and then okay do n't eat candy tomorrow go sporting and and it 's and it 's fine
mhm yeah that 's
yeah mhm
and everyone knows that and people _0 actually er _0 it 's still my belief that then that people buy a bag of candy they eat it _0 because they like at that moment and they just fo- they they think
mhm
forget about the rest
forget about the rest
mhm yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
come on er _0 and knowing that _0 then when you when you go in that that thinking _0 er _0 you when you entered in a market you you can _0 bring a sugar- _0 -less product or a sugar- or a sugar-free or whatever
mhm
erm
or sugar-reduced
but do n't put too much _0 er _0 er communication am- amongst there just _1 tell them that it is a good product
mhm
mhm
and that it 's _0 of high taste _0 and that you do n't see the difference between _0 er the sugar-containing one and the sugar-free one
mhm
mhm mhm mhm
mhm
er and it 's _0 oh it 's nice to have it it 's also sugar-free
mhm
you know er so you can er _0
right right right mhm
have the enjoyment _0 of of of the of sugar confectionery
yeah
yeah
and you do n't have the disadvantage of the calories
of the calories yeah
mhm mhm
and that 's but _0 that 's not the main task of the m- the main reason for buying candy _1 is t- is is people know that it 's not good for your your health but they just like it
mhm mhm mhm
just to eat it
it 's just a a treatment for your for yourself _0
yeah
that 's it
okay today i treat myself and tomorrow i will go out and sport
yeah
mhm
yeah right mhm right mhm _2
yeah _3
mhm _2
then the s_iri figures of a_[org4]
mhm
and erm valid since
good
yeah _0 what you can see here is the rotation is er _0 er much better than last year
mhm
and erm _0 this is er also due that we have advised them to _0 to give er a_[thing1] more space _0 in the shelves _0 and here you can see it yeah that the rotation will er _0
mhm
increased _0
and a_[org4] you deliver direct or or _0
what we did there we
yeah
yeah
okay
that 's a member of a_[org8]
yeah yeah
we also we deliver them our he- er a_[thing7] products
okay
also directly and what we
it 's a member of a_[org8] as well aha okay
yeah
yeah
and what we told them is you ha- er you have to reduce
mhm
mhm
the number of s_skus and also the space you 're giving to a_[thing7]
mhm
it 's better to give _0 a_[thing1] more space _0 so we reduced our own brand the space of our own brand to give a_[thing1] more space
really
mhm
and it has _0 it had everything to do also with er _0 with with the ca- with the fun in food
mhm
er p- project _0 cos when we made the calculation on _0 when you have a presentation of four meters of header cards
mhm
yeah a_[thing8] or a_[thing7]
mhm
where you have place of four meters _0 you 're you talk about forty _0 s_skus
mhm
and forty products
mhm
when you compare that to the average rotation _0 er the average store has a has a er stock level _0 of six weeks
mhm
yeah between six and eight weeks
mhm mhm
and from a from a erm
at least a carton per per product
yeah so and and from a from from a margin point of view it 's it 's it 's a wrong investment
yeah yeah
yeah
mhm
so we said it 's better _0
mhm
not to place er too many products in the store and also just make one facing of a product and not two facings because you do n't need it
mhm
mhm
mhm
mhm
from a from a stock point of view
mhm
mhm mhm
and it 's it 's better for your margin _0 er and it gives you room to get more products in
mhm mhm
and er and at a_[org4] it it works so er
mhm
yeah _0
yeah
little bit lost now on the numbers on er how many stores people are getting but they i know they get more stores
mhm
mhm mhm
every day it 's different
yeah
yeah _4
but i think these are er also good figures er
mhm _1
sales er _1 out of shelves _4
a petrol station
yeah petrol stations _0
wow
yeah and if you compare the _0 er you have date figures erm from this year to last year _0
mhm
you can see enormous growth and it has all to do with er _1 our sales force _0 because s- they yeah maybe continues focus er on distribution and selling of a_[thing1] there
mhm
mhm
mhm _0
place displays in er _0 in the petrol stations _1 erm now i 've tried to make a clear picture but er i think failed in this because it 's very f- _0 a fluctuating picture and you can see the first one is er two thousand five er week twenty-nine till week _0
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er fifty-one _0 and there you can see that erm _0 yeah that the distribution _0 was er s- sometimes it was okay sometimes it was extremely yeah _0
mhm
it was not not that good _0 and erm if you _0 er now look to the erm _0 er the figure of two thousand six you can see it 's more
quite stable mhm
yeah it 's more stable and erm _0 the distribution is er erm better than in two thousand five and the rotation _0 yeah it 's _0 that 's on on yeah _0 leave it on the same level but i think the rotation er _0 could be much higher and i think for next year we have to make some plans _0 to yeah to do some er _0 promotions in the shops _0 to er to get more er
mhm
to get the rotation higher _1
mhm and this is a_[org21] and a_[org20] or or
a_[org19] er petrol stations
okay
how many how many outlets are this _0 in average _1
erm i do n't know exactly
how many what
outlets
outlets or stores
s- total
ooph _0 in holland i think two and a half thousand petrol stations er ooph seven he- hundred or eight hundred are company-owned er company-operated so _0
stations
yeah
aha
er we are not allowed to go in there
mhm _0
and the rest is independent but within these ind- independent _0 er petrol stations you also have _0 a lot of petrol stations who er hardly sell any er sugar confectionery any more _0 or even _0 quit selling sugar confectionery what you see in holland it 's er _0
mhm
it 's a_[org23] and also other companies _0 they just close their their erm facility on on selling candies and other stuff _0 and they s- they still keep the petrol ar- er the the they still sell the petrol but only with credit cards _0
mhm
mhm
you know so there 's still a petrol station but there 's no sales any more and that 's that 's also a trend what er what we see _0
okay
mhm okay
mhm
mhm
so erm _0 but the thing what what we what we did comp- er what we changed compared to last year last year we had a lot of activities to wholesalers and also with our sales force _0 but erm _0 we er did not had that much er focus on on presentation and now we said okay _0 presentation is crucial
mhm
mhm
mhm
so er bring in racks bring in er the the four pin er the pin er displays
shelf displays
mhm
and erm _0 er and also m- c- try to get distribution through head offices on er on er _0 petrol
yeah
fun in petrol er concept _0 which er is also er _0 working well
yeah _0 for a_[org21] and a_[org19]
yeah
mhm
yeah we have place in the fun meter
yeah _2 you know it 's it ha- er it has everything to do with er _0 with the put your product in danger of being sold thing
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and that 's er
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yeah
mhm
er now here you can see in erm _0 in global overview of the activities er for this year which we have done here and erm first of all the assortment which er kind of licences we had er during the time _0
mhm
mhm
erm _0 yeah the the new t- er top sign er the scratch and win promotion and _0
mhm
erm _0 the introduction of the the cola erm _1 refill _0 and er you can also see the have a continuous focus of our sales force erm _0 yeah on a_[thing1] _1 and _1 erm yeah many times you will _0 place some press releases in trade force
mhm
to get more attention to a_[thing1] for the _0
mhm
mhm
for the buyers
so you will you will repeat the scratch and win promotion in
yeah
yeah
september
autumn this year
yeah _0
at this moment
so you sta- yeah
mhm
yeah week forty yeah yeah
started already in september yeah mhm _0
we are now packing
with an alarm bell _1
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mhm
yeah right
ah
you can see it here
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mhm
because it 's a it 's a nice erm er
mhm it 's quite nice a nice nice gift yeah
mhm
yeah
promotion item
yeah and all the other things they er they sell the _0
mhm
mhm
the f_blechschilder or
from
yeah
mhm
the what
erm in holland yeah
f_blechschilder
the f_blech-
oh the old er retro er f_schild okay
yeah
yeah retro designs yeah _0
yeah right mhm mhm
yeah there 's many er nice things the _3 and they do it only for you or _1 i mean x xx yeah
no no no
that 's er they have many many different kind of of licences
okay er _0 yeah
and _0
so i 've now this er _0 f_banduhr
but they obviously like it mhm mhm
mhm
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yeah
yeah this are also very popular items i think _0
mhm
mhm
yeah
and everybody is happy when you erm
yeah _0 yeah
when somebody gets a present like this one
yeah _1 but they 'll work at more in detail after this er scratch and win promotion _5
mhm
mhm
so cola was just introduced in january
yeah
mhm _0
yeah _1 to get everything more focused on the blisters instead of standard bags
mhm
which is the same period _0
yeah a_[S3] told us that i- it was a great taste so we had to do that
ah
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and she knows it
i was fully against it but er
i i just give p_advices @@@@@@@@@@
yeah i was fully against it but they are you know _1
the the ball is in your corner @@
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so it 's really it 's _0 a big difference
yeah
and the fruit one is the most po- popular in every er country i think yeah _0
fruit yeah fruit yeah mhm
yeah
hm
definitely mhm
yeah _3 well the first scratch and win promotion er _0 where people can er _0 could er win a race car
mhm
erm _0 na- yeah it it was a good way to get more distributions er in shops and erm _0 the result was that we have sold nineteen er half-round displays and er hundred and sixty er round displays
mhm
so that was a good er _0 yeah there was _0 good results _1 and the introduction of the new top sign er you know it already
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and erm
mhm
er i think it 's better for us because it 's er yeah more smaller and communicates better the yeah _0
mhm
mhm
mhm
mhm
what a_[thing1] is _1 erm the a_[org5] erm yeah we 've alr- alr- already seen the the good results in s_iri _0
mhm
mhm
and the displays i think we _0 yeah have to go back to them again and erm _1
mhm
place the carton er displays _1 and the a_[org21] fun meter _0 erm _0 no and the fun meter c- er implemented in twenty-five stations
mhm _0
and at this moment they have chicken little and they will _0 change now into er to er cars yeah _2
cars
mhm
you can see a picture where _0 we are now _4 so we al- already have er spoken about the f_vortest fun in food _0 and er now here y- you can see also a picture of er how a_[thing1] is placed er
mhm
er in shelves _0 with all the other er novelty products _1 and erm yeah _0 xxxxx at this moment seven items of a_[org1] er a week _0
but that 's just dispensers no no refills
no they i- in the nice thing is that they n- they er went to er some stores to the store er managers _0 asking them _0 er asking the store owner er can you _0 also tell me where i can find the refills
mhm _0
and we immediately took this up and brought that to the buyer of a_[org7] and said hey i think you have to take in the the refills as well because _0
mhm
mhm
mhm
mhm
people are asking for it
yeah
asking for it mhm
so erm
mhm
so the next step is to bring in the the refill and i think this will be done next week or the week after _0 and erm _1
okay
mhm
you did n't know that then
i didn- no i did n't actually
s- yeah that was new
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xx xx
yeah yeah true yeah
@ you have to come to austria to
for
yeah @@@@
to get some news @@@@@@@
oh @
you have more news for me or _0
n- perhaps i do n't know
oh okay _1
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yeah the sales force erm _0 yeah this is very er they do a very big job _0 and erm yeah _0 they p- they place many er displays of a_[thing1] and er _0 also the other products of course _0
mhm
and you can see some figures er _0 and yeah the buil- they built up a good relationship now with all the er _0 buyers so er
a mini- _1
mhm
the p_mini-bag
yeah _1 a refill _2 is it only for our country i thought
yep
mhm
yeah yeah
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you 're you 're you are the exception of the exception
yeah
mhm
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the dutch are different you know @@@@@@@@@@@@@@
always
you knew that
you knew that up front a_[S3]
@ yeah right @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
don- do n't blame us afterwards
no
yeah yeah
i was always very honest about that
yeah right
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and a_[org19] also a petrol station erm _0
xx
but i had a little hope you know @@@@@@@@@ right @@@@@@@@@@@
the
yeah forget it
forget it
when i look in the mirror sometimes i 've hope and then i forget it
yeah right @ forget it @@@@@@@@@@@@ okay _1 @@ _2
a_[org19] 's hun- er hundred and fifty stations er petrol stations and erm _0 we 've also implemented er there an er yeah the fun meter
mhm _0
with a_[thing1] in it
mhm
and erm _0 some stations erm _0 are selling heffalump and _0 and the bigger stations are selling heffalump and chicken little and _0 and there will also a switch er _0 er from chicken little to cars yeah
to cars
mhm
yeah _1 then a_[org24] er dealers _0 erm yeah they had er created a big campaign _0 sorry but i think that 's my phone @
and _0 d- d- do you know the s_rsp at xx
er i thought one point two nine _0 if i 'm not wrong but i can check it for you if you want _0
mhm
mhm _7 and they have got the blisters am i right
yeah
mhm
okay _3 f_ich f_glaube f_eben f_darum f_weil f_xx f_is f_ja _1 erm
yeah they have so many things
is
is more or less _0 the cheapest
mhm _0
er
yeah
account _0 mhm _2
yeah
their shops were fully erm _0 full of cars items they were selling many cars xxx xx full of er _0
mhm
mhm
of the consumer er
mhm
falls also _0 in yeah in style of er cars _0 xx
mhm mhm
they had many er _0 products of that so er _0
hm
p_licency _3
mhm
erm a_[org25] that 's a holiday park _0
mhm
yeah you can rent there a house er on a big family park i do n't know if you er know a_[org25] but er it 's yeah you can rent a house there m- with your family and there 's swimming pool and a tennis court and a _0
mhm
hh a minigolf and
mhm
bowling center et cetera _0 and er now they 'll erm will start with selling a_[thing1] near the er checkouts near the _0 xx
mhm mhm
yeah the bi- the big displays _0 and er
so they will start or
yeah they will start
they will be placed next week i think
yeah
we
we
we were waiting on stock of _0
erm
best of a_[org2]
best of a_[org2] yeah
yeah
there yeah there was one item of best of a_[org2]
mhm
mhm
there was one item missing i think _2
er f- from the characters
due to to
yeah there 's one item er which is er
yeah from the characters
yeah
so otherwise it would be implemented already but we are waiting on er on one product
it 's that
mhm
yeah
mhm mhm _4
mhm _1
then the plan er for the rest of this this year _0 erm the scratch and win promotion for er also for our _0 week forty we will start with delivering them _0 and erm yeah it 's er test segment construction erm _0 and now we have created total package with the the shelf display in it and _0 four cartons of er different er p_licency of er _0
mhm
a_[org1] characters er one carton of refills _0 erm yeah _0 ninety-six scratch and win cards _0 as you can see here _0 and er yeah the biggest prize you can win is the _0 alarm clock of a_[org1] _0 and er the other prize are the a_[thing1] dispensers er _0 the standard bags of sponge bob _0
mhm _0
refills are the eight-packs or _0 this
yeah
mhm
yeah with er the eight-packs
mhm _2
yeah _1 for the shelf display
mhm
so they can hang it up
yeah yeah mhm _1
and i think we will sell er five hundred er _0 er package of this one because er yeah _1 we have made a forecast and the clients are very xx about
of the scratch and win
yeah of the of the package er of scratch and win yeah
xx
of the mhm
mhm _5
then the big surprise
mhm
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xx _4
@ i will do @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
@ yeah
@@ _0
@@
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this is a handmade sample
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mhm
because the er _0 er s- the dutch well were _2 xx our warehouse er i think this week
mhm _0
and er yeah that 's a seasonal product and er it erm _0 yeah it con- contains a_[thing1] dispenser you can see and also a refill _1
mhm
mhm
mhm
mhm
x xx
who who is doing the packaging for you
we _0 we do it ours- er w- we have p_co-packers who do it
you yourselves
yeah yeah okay
yeah
mhm _1
f_met a_[thing1] _2
yeah _1
very nice
and it 's a success because it 's the first year and er _0
mhm
as you can here it was so er _1
mhm
er more twenty-six thousands er consumer units er of this bag so _0
very nice
yeah _0
and what 's the the consumer price _0 for it
er two point sixty-nine _3
that 's nice _0 very nice
a_[S3] can i take another coffee er
yeah
yes of course sorry sorry
yeah
no no no _0 no problem
would you like to have another tea _0
er no thank you
no _5
have you have you have you ever eaten er f_strooigoed _1
f_stroo-
is is it f-
f_pepernoten
is it fresh yeah that is fresh is n't it
yeah
yeah it 's fresh yeah
yeah _2
can i open it
yeah sure _7
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it 's ha-
yeah it 's handmade
it 's a handmade sample er
seams
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yeah
so you can open it
but you p_seamed the foil you know
yeah
yeah by ourselves
xx yeah
using it with the
yeah
xxx
oh yeah we 've an- another bag there and er _1
yeah but it 's empty
yeah i know but but for er for er
@@
yeah
o- yeah okay for more of the _1
xx xx xx x _2
right
good quality foil
yeah
yeah it is _13
so that 's a combination of candy
mhm
yeah so er _0 with compressed candy and all kinds of candy
mhm
and and gingerbread _0
mhm
that 's the ginger- f_oder that _0 are these
that 's the gingerbread
yeah
that 's gingerbread
that 's just
that 's chocolate
plain chocolate
yeah that 's yeah _3
yeah
xxxx _1 is very good though _1 but i think it 's a chocolate _7
hm _1 nice _1
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@@@
f_nicht f_gut
@
f_ja
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f_ist f_gut _0
it 's kind of s- sp- f_speculaas _0
f_speculaa-
or is it or how do you call that 's an an _0
erm
f_ach f_so f_ja _1 erm _1 mhm _2
like the cookies
we have the cookies yeah yeah
there are at christmas
mhm yeah
like the cookies
yeah
yeah _1 the same _3
peppermint
and all the faces are black _1 for your x
yeah there 's on- there 's there 's one guy
i wanted to ask her
which is actually white that 's santa claus
@ @@ that 's unfair
santa claus yeah
children
and the other ones are er painted black _0
ah yeah
yeah but this is er
that 's santa claus
yeah _0 and this is
and then we have black pete that 's the guy er
f_ach f_ja that 's black pete
yeah
f_genau _1 mhm
but when you undress them _0 the the f- the the shape is exactly the same but @@@@@@@@
mhm
yeah yeah yeah mhm
when you take off the the foils er
@@@@
@@@@@@@@@@@
so we use also them for er for er the the christmas er figures
mhm
mhm
yeah that 's exactly the same chocolate _0
and for easter bunny @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ _0
and for easter bunnies as well
mhm
f_ach f_ja f_das f_ist f_ein f_dicht f_piet _1 f_dicht
f_dicht f_piet
f_dicht f_piet
it er there is er during this er period of er of the fifth of december there is the _0 the whole idea is santa claus comes into the country _1
mhm
and it gives presents to children _0 and er but before the fifth of december he is already in the country _0
f_dicht f_piet
mhm
and he throws _0 er gifts through the chimneys _0 of the houses _0
mhm
so _0 small children
to the stockings
mhm
can can put their
socks
their shoes
yeah
in front of the chimney but nobody has a chimney an- any more in in holland but okay er
under the chimney
mhm
why bother
then they have a key _0
er sh- yeah and santa claus has a key _0
@@@ a key @
and then erm
@@@@@@@@@@
er @ and
just recently
so this this these are products _0
yeah
who actually er do fit into the the the shoe
mhm
er on the other hand
mhm
that 's true yeah
er f_dicht f_piet means _0
yeah
er th- that 's also on the fifth of january you er you get a lot of presents _0 and er and some of the
in december
on the fifth
fifth of december xxx
of december
on the fifth of december you get a lot of product er presents
okay
hm
mhm
and er a lot of people _0
xxx
xxx
add to the present _0 a small er poem
a limerick or
a limerick so something about _0 the guy who _0 gets the products and wha- what 's the use of the product and als- alw- always in rhyme _0
mhm
mhm
and rhyming _0 is the same as _0 f_dichten _0 so
oh
okay
and and and and f_dicht
f_dichten f_und f_dichten
f_dichten f_ja
f_dicht
and er
we have the same word
and so we said okay er the the f_dicht f_piet
f_dichten
hm yeah
mhm
is the is the guy
piet is peter
who m- or actually makes all the the the poems
piet is the the black piet
the
yeah
the poems mhm
who m- who makes the
piet yeah
it 's peter
that 's the name the name of er this guy
yeah yeah
so this yeah _0 so we we we more or less invented that there 's one black piet _0
f_der f_dichtende f_piet
yeah
mhm
f_aha
who actually makes all the the
mhm
mhm
the poems
yeah
mhm
the poems _0
mhm _3
@ _1 and that 's no and tha- tha- _0 that 's why we put in a letter _0 because _0 this is the letter s_s so you can _0 m- so that 's
mhm
so there 's
find out
that 's the con- that 's the connection to the f_dicht f_er f_piet so the
diff-
f_ach f_so
mhm
and you have different letters in the in no in just
one letter
no
there are in holland er of course all the letters of the _1 the alphabet are there _0 but you you ca n't arrange that
mhm
mhm
because er so we said we take the s_s
yeah
of of x and that 's it
mhm
and er _0 yeah so it 's a good combination of all kinds of nice things and er _0
mhm
yeah _0
and you do this for the for the very first time this year or
yeah
this is the first time
yeah
it 's
it 's mhm
it ha- had with we we already did a lot of a_[org26] _0 products we a_[org26]- a_[org26] is one of our seasonal brands _0 and er and we are always constantly looking for for a new creative added value concepts _0 and so we came up now with er with f_dicht f_piet and we also had another one _0
mhm
erm _0 surprise piet _0
yeah
and we we came up with four new _0
mhm mhm
four new concepts _0 and we went to the trade and they selected two _0 the surprise piet and the f_dicht f_piet and the others _0 we still have erm _0
okay
available but erm
mhm mhm _0 and this is your own brand or
yeah
okay
yeah _1
a_[org26] or a_[org26] or _0 what
a_[org26]
a_[org26]
a_[org26] _0
yeah _0 we will change that er this year also because i do n't like the coloring of er the a_[org26] logo _1 it 's er it 's a little bi- it 's it 's a little bit cheap
and does stand f- stand for anything
yeah no
okay
no
f_entschuldigung
f_bitte _0 mhm _11 nice mhm
yeah
yeah
very nice _3
and yeah with seasonal products it 's always a _0 problem to get new seasonal products in because what the trade normally does is they l- they look at what did we did last year
xx i know from my childhood
mhm yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
and we do exactly the same this year
yeah
yeah yeah yeah _0 and that 's it
and that 's it and they do n't take the time to really look at new concepts so er okay when you start up a new concept and you sell nearly thirty thousand bags _0 m- _0 yeah as a start
it 's a good signal
mhm
it 's it 's a good signal
mhm
mhm _0
mhm
yeah _2
mhm
and it 's i think that 's good for a_[org1] yeah because you communicate the the dispensers also in er in other stores and er in an another way
xx
quite nice yeah
yeah
mhm mhm mhm mhm
okay erm _1 huh
yeah _3
here you have some cards with the new scratch and win promotion
ah
scratch and win yeah
er they are not the winnings cards hopefully i hope
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hopefully yeah
xxx xx
hopefully
it 's a pity for you but you do n't have
otherw-
otherwise you have to ship the the otherwise you have to ship the
mhm
any price
@
yeah right @@@@@@@@@@@
the alarm bell
the alarm clock er
@@@@@@@@@@@@
yeah
the next time when they come @@@
@@@@@@@@@@
@@@@@@
please give me my
this is not a guilty one
gift
my prize
xxx
@@@@@@@ _0
no
@ _2
erm _0 now we of course er _0 what i already told you they continue focus of our sales force _0 and they er also will erm _0 sell them yeah the scratch and win er _0 package erm _0 yeah
mhm
to the clients
mhm _1
and maybe we can implement a internet site _0 er with a link to xx this year but i i do n't know what the status i think it 's news xx
the st-
the status is yes that erm _0 our whole _1 a_[org1] website is more or le- more or less er rebuilt and er _0
mhm
redid
there are actually three _0 offers er given to agencies and _0 our marketing director is _0 still waiting for the results and but it will be a completely new
i know yeah
yeah
yeah
er website _0 and then er the countries will have special links as well so that we _0
okay
special placement for the for the countries that there 's a direct link but _1
yeah
okay
i mean the- they will do it or do we have to er
erm
er that 's not not er ooph _0
create all that
yeah we can discuss about this
as soon as the as the whole page more or less is is done rebuilt everything then er i will contact you and
okay
we will know how it _0
yeah
how it will be planned but it will be more active more er for kids it
yeah
yeah
i think it will be divided into parts _0 especially erm targets kids then the more the grown-ups
mhm _0
er where you can find a_[org1] the distribution partners but more _0 more active
mhm _0
than it was to- wha- and than it is now
yeah
yeah i think it 's nice to to to al- to put also game er a_[org1] game or something like that er _0
mhm
yeah
on the internet site
mhm _0
mhm mhm
and there we can also er
because some some of our distribution partners ask already
mhm yeah
cos when just go on a_[org1] that you have the direct link okay how what 's what 's happening in my country
yeah
yeah
yeah _0
mhm
at this moment it 's not of the xxx
bec-
and even f_von the language because _1
yeah
you ca n't translate everything in all languages so
no
yeah _0 great
therefore it 's _1 but i will update you on this
yeah
that 's okay _0
it 's getting more and more important medium huh
mhm
yeah _0 sure
internet
and even the kids they they have access
yeah
and mhm
mhm
mhm
especially the kids yeah
mhm
and next year we celebrate eighty years _0 maybe you know it already
no
eight- eighty years hh _0 and due to this event we _0 refurbish _0 more or less our website
okay _0
and er _2 we also have a _1 kind of concept er _1 for our eightieth anniversary for next years _0 which will presented _0
okay
and this is
during the s_ism
and a _0 haeh
@@ during the s_ism
during the s_ism @@@ o_dədədə o_dʌ: @@@@@@@@@@
yeah
and there 's a special er eighty anniversary logo _0
@@
which will then be on every packaging on every on every pic- e- every blister
on every packaging
okay
okay
and mhm _1
oh that 's good
yeah _0
cos it gives something on on value and quality
right right
there will be international prize-winning game and
if you already exist for eighty years you must be good
mhm
yeah yeah right
okay yeah
yeah and you 're still alive @@@@@
and you 're no that when you 're eighty and you 're still alive it 's er yeah
that yeah right yeah yeah right @@ and you still breathe @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ you 're right right mhm mhm mhm
yeah you
you 've done things
in in a good way so
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
and the whole consumers can go to the international website and they can
right
right
join the game or
yes it will be a cooperation with mickey mouse _1
yeah
hm competition or
some
oh
prizes
yeah
mhm _1
some nice prizes _0 er were given by a_[org27] as well
yeah _0
okay
that 's nice
mhm _0
trip to er _0 a_[place1] something like that _0
mhm
yeah
a_[place2] at least @@@@@@@@@@
or a_[place2] yeah xxx
something like this mhm mhm
yeah
but it 's yeah i think at s_ism _0
mhm
it 's the _1
and we also get a f- a f- a few dispensers in the old shape of the mickey mou- mouse for example _0
some time to present it
mhm
which could be a good present for for your _0 er clients or for your buyers _0
okay
erm _0 just to make them aware that er _1 a_[org1] celebrate eighty years and so on so
okay _1
erm _1 our marketing director is very deep _0 into this project and and er _0 we are right now collecting everything _0 er all this international _0 erm campaign which we are planning _0 winning campaign so _0 and we just wait for the green light from a_[org27] and so on and so on so it 's really stuck _0
mhm
okay
right _0 in into _0 the middle of the project
hm
okay great _0
mhm _1 f_hast f_du f_etwas f_zum f_herzeigen
the the logo yeah _0 which is on the
mhm _0
on the new shrek blister card _21
it 's a bad thing that you took that one
yeah
cos now i started to eat it
hm _1 sorry that 's your own responsibility
mhm xxxxx
@@@@@@@
@@ _10 do n't take the chocolate @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
no
i will give it to you
@@@@@@@
no
@@@@@ _1 here you can see this _1
just a moment _3
icon
oh yeah here we are
it 's the
eighty years
okay
yeah
celebration _0 l- _0 and and we also _0 will have a erm _1 let 's a_[org1] com _1 website
it will be the new site yeah
mhm
the new site
the new email address actually
mhm _3 and _0 on this website we will celebrate er _0 the the winning promotion
okay _2 is it already existing is it already in the air the the
which which we do
no no no no no no so we 're we 're right really
no
no
it 's under construction
yeah right
because if then when the new concept of the website is is more or less er _1 decided _0 and everything is finished then it will change to the new _0
yeah
address as well _2
and all the p_packagings will _0 change f- er only for this year
right _0 right _0 for one year
a special yeah
right
design er
i think with meet _0 the robinsons will be the first
yeah we will start with meet the robinsons with with er
because it 's the first
this this new one
yeah
this will be shrek shrek three mhm _1
shrek okay okay
if we get the licence it 's still not
yeah _4 mhm it 's a nice logo it 's it 's with er link to the re- retro retro
yes it is
yeah
it 's it
retro yes yes yes mhm mhm
yeah
retro yeah
a little bit nostalgic
yeah
yeah
it 's _0 the cap from _0 from
from from from our lady
the a_[org1] lady _0
yeah _6
that 's quite nice
f_traubenzucker
yeah that 's nice _2 so there will be an exciting year _0
mhm
next year _2 that 's your holiday _1 picture or @
last year
@@@
yeah
@@@ _0 that 's australia yeah
fruitful surroundings yeah
yeah @@ @@@@@@ lot of water _9
@@
er what do you think about next year erm _0 we think that our er _0 our two most important things er we have to focus on and that 's the focus on distribution and dominance in shops _0
mhm
and er also increase the rotation er by reaching the consumer er with erm _0 yeah _0 activities on the _0 on the floor or _0 erm _0 yeah _0 like activities on yeah _0
and these things x displays instead of the _0 floor displays
yeah _0
xx
yeah _3
mhm
and we think that er with with this focus er we 'll get more er distribution more sales for next year _0
yeah and we are much more flexible because er _0 er _0 you d- you do n't have do to anything you you you just
no because the
uncover it
yeah
and
mhm
and it 's
yeah
do n't have to fill it
yeah yeah
no
you have the p_crowner
mhm
yeah
mhm
from the
yeah
for the special
mhm
erm _0
yeah
hit the store to er
xxx
no work to place it
no
in comparison to _0
to the others
you are right yeah to the others _0
to the x display
right _1 mhm
and less expensive _1
and less expensive _0
okay how how do we think we can focus on distribution and dominance _0 er now what have already spo- er it is the switch from the standard bag to the standard blister
mhm
mhm
sure
mhm
when you you got the _8 so that 's just the _0 p_non-branded er packaging
mhm _0
and it 's the product _0 but you received a sample so you so you know
yeah i 've received samples yeah yeah
yeah
yeah we saw it we saw it already during our last conversation er when you came over to er to holland
that 's an
mhm
right
right
mhm
you had one or two er of these products
mhm _0 no this year we started with france _1
standing
in april _0 and er from the beginning of next year we will spread _1 er _0 to all our other partners _1
yeah _2
from the timing it 's actually _0
depends on you
it 's it 's up to you yeah
okay
okay
but i think yeah
it is you you can check it you can even er let us know if you _0 would like to have the same _0 er bar code _0 you currently have for the standard bags _0
mhm
yeah _1
and everything else erm
okay _0 and i will come back to visit you because i 've to er _0
mhm
xxx which clients er do now the
mhm mhm _2
and i think it 's _0 m- m- most easy to start with this then in the first of january
yeah
we can now _0 inform our customers
mhm
yeah
and then er make the switch with our local xx
mhm mhm
this issue _3 but it 's it 's a nice packaging it 's
mhm
mhm
mhm
very clear and very er _0
mhm
yeah _1
and very good visibility
xx and from the
yeah yeah
mhm
from the space it 's _0 as well
yeah
and _0 and the dispenser can not _0 move and fall so you always _0
yeah
see them from the side _2
yeah
mhm _7 plan _5
erm yes how we how can we increase rotation erm now we think there are different er possibilities erm yeah we were _0 already working on the internet site i think that 's
mhm
very important to do _0 and erm yeah you can _0
mhm
do so many things er with internet and er and we can also er _0 er make a cooperation of a link with popular sites in holland and _0 create games and erm _0 yeah _1 erm what we will do that also with er a_[thing7] and erm yeah are ge- we will get a total package deal there with yeah you you will get a a s_grps for that and you c- you we will get an er _0 er a a_[thing7] game and we will get erm _0 all those kind of things _1 and er yeah we think that 's very good to _0 yeah to reach the consumer because er _0 especially younger children are _0 yeah _0 very _0 used with the internet and er
mhm
mhm _4
so _0 i 'm very curious about the new internet site and then yeah we can a plan for that _2 then consumer activities on the floor _0 er get stickers for free with a popular licence and er _0 you 've also sent me a picture er how we can do that _0
mhm
and er that 's also a possibility _0 erm or a photo competition or a other competition that er _0 children er have to make er _0 yeah a special picture of themselves in combination _0 with a_[thing1] _0 and er the most popular or the most funny er
mhm
er photo will win for example a digital er camera _0
mhm
scratch and win promotion now we have to wait for the results of the second scratch and win promotion but i think it 's it will be very successful again _0 so maybe it 's also i need for next year erm _1
mhm
and erm _0 it 's also an idea to _0 erm _0 yeah to to make some prizes er together _0 or with a cooperation with a_[org27] _0 and maybe we can give also erm _0
mhm
trips to a_[place2] or _0 erm _0 cinema vouchers or something like that _1 then new characters _0 er you 've als- you 've sent me erm
mhm
yeah an overview or
meet the robinsons mhm _1
yeah
do you have er examples of this erm
yes we will show them in the in the news presentation
oh okay
okay
yeah
yeah _2 cos i never heard of a ratatouille _0
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then er s_tv we have already discussed las- er last time and er and although it was yeah too early _0
yes
yeah
and maybe we can do it er if we get more distribution er distribution after the food approach er beginning of er two thousand six now hh i thought i
mhm
mhm
mhm
if we have more budget available _0
sorry
if and if we have more budget available
yeah _0
yeah i i thought i 've sent you this er _0 proposal er by mail er
this one yeah mhm
i 've yeah okay so it is the same as a
mhm
mhm _2
erm now print _0 also a good item er of course at stores and magazines and erm _0 yeah well my question was do you s- have er other promotions er _0 erm _0 yeah _0 of other countries successful promotion of other country which we _0 may can use er for er for half of next year
mhm _6
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we collected _1 regarding your question _0
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we collected all this success stories from from all our partners _0 because a_[firstname1] needed it er for his presentation _0
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er in front of the board
to the supervisory board
so we can we can send it over to you to see _0
okay
just a a variety
yeah
what we did _0 in the first half of of this year yeah
that you yeah
mhm
mhm
yeah
just just to get the idea
mhm _0 yeah maybe it is a good er
mhm
yeah but we we collected this ideas already so we have we have them
okay
okay
that 's great
great
mhm _0
like sharing best practices
right just for sharing mhm _3
yeah
yeah sure
mhm _2
do we still have sponge bob next year _0
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it it 's it 's so boring in the warehouse you know
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maybe they have it two and a half year
it 's still on s_tv
in holland
yeah and i think it 's quite popular _0 because even in in serbia they ask for sponge bob in south africa
aha
it 's quite popular but i mean we do n't have the licence any more yeah hm
it 's still there
it 's unbelievable
but _0 you have stock for for nearly half a year
now we have stock at this moment er er three hundred erm _0
cases
cart- yeah cartons _1 and erm _0 yeah the sale is not that high _1 xxxx
yeah okay but
mhm
but er
i think we have to finalize that stock _0 little bit earlier than er than er may
yeah
mhm mhm _0
yeah i think so yeah _0 now we will give it away in the scratch and win packages
yeah
mhm
right
yeah yeah
that 's a good idea
yeah
those things yeah
yeah
mhm mhm _2
mhm
erm now mickey mouse heffalump princess cars
princess there will come up _0 three new characters next year _1
sorry _0
with princess there will come up new three f_also three new characters next year
oh
okay _1
so x it 's still the sort name princess when you order it
yeah
but you will instead of just three er characters you will get _0 six different
six
okay
okay _2
what kind of characters do you know the names of them or
erm yes it 's _0
princess one two three
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you do n't like princess
and
no _0 not that much so i 'm i really do n't care about princess and you know
i hardly see the difference so er between i hardly see the difference between er the characters
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yeah
right
nor do i so i i i 'm i i do n't pay too much attention to it so
it 's
yeah
but the kids like it that 's
maybe it 's _0 yeah _0 more fun for er younger girls
right
yeah _0
yes
yeah that 's for sure
yeah
so i know them but i i do n't know the name _0 is n't it aurora
aurora snow white yeah the the third one _1
aha okay
erm
we have jasmin we have belle we have _1 cinderella
mhm
that 's the only one i know cinderella _0
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i do n't know why but
so these are two the the third one er i do n't have a pictures of yet so _0 but they are quite _0 pink _0
who are those _0
think pink
so this is er
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this is the cinderella
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and that 's the aurora _0
mhm
deborah _0
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and these were the older ones _1
yeah _6
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mhm
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never forget it @@@@@@@@@@@
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mhm _2
yeah i 've signed the the introduction of the new characters but i _0 yeah that depends also on the schedule which you er have in your mind _0
mhm
mhm
erm yeah the whole assortment
so open season you wait until next year you will not have open season this year
erm
yeah _0 yeah _1 or yeah the s_dvd release is er is _0 yeah more important for us than er the film release
mhm
aha _1
that 's cos this year
when is the film release _0 it 's something with
the fifth of october
fifth of october or so
okay
yeah _4
mhm _1
now the display approach er the yellow er _0 er ones _0 you will do that er the first er _0 ones of er next year and we will also repeat that activity of course er after the summer holiday _1 and erm yeah we will do some consumer promotions er two times a year _0 erm around m- march and april _0 and also around september october at the school er
the this is f- scratch and w- kind of scratch and win or what the display approach
er no that 's the
or to s- to just to
cartons yeah to get distribution in food and then er
ah the cartons okay
mhm mhm
toy stores et cetera
mhm _8 mhm
yeah that 's a little bit the first overview for for next year
mhm
and erm _0 we think we er _0 we 'll end up then with the sales of er _1 five hundred thousand euros
then
xxx
yeah
to add all the new assortments which we will present afterwards
yeah
yeah
it was very difficult now already to make an estimate on what we you will _0
yeah yeah sure
do next year
mhm
mhm
cos you
was not expected
mhm
you n- you need to know more more what will happen when and the phasing in is is important there as well so
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah mhm
sure
yeah
mhm
mhm mhm
hh but er _0 the whole idea is that we er continue to to focus on distribution and s_pos _0 and try to _0 to activate er the brand even more with with consumer activities and perhaps with some media
mhm
mhm
internet or whatever
mhm mhm
to to reach the consumers _0 also on another way _0 and then er _2 i think er _0 now looking at this the f- the figures of this year that the approach we 've chosen for this year is er is working
yeah
and er
mhm _1
yeah _0 some some adjustments here and there and er and go on
right right
definitely
yeah
yeah
how is a_[lastname8] doing by the way _0
who
a_[lastname8]
oh i do n't know i do n't wan na hear a thing from him any more
a_[lastname8]-
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he 's still alive and kicking in m- er
but they asked they they ask us to send some er samples of ca- er of best of a_[org2]
you 're
you 're you 're
you 're all
really
yeah yeah
so they sent a direct email there mhm _0
aha
yeah he he
but he had they er he asked that to you _0
yeah _0
okay _0
really
i think you got it and and you send it to me _0 a_[lastname8] ask er wrote an
mhm
aha
for the samples of best of a_[org1]
yeah
yeah _0
and he asked it _0 to you _0
mhm
and not to us
yeah _1
he 's crazy
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but now you see how important we are @@ no but that 's crazy i i fully agree with you
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the next time when you when he sends a mail like that
i fully agree with you
mhm
mhm
please er give him er _0 er
a note
give him a note _0 that you will pass this information
mhm
mhm
to us _0
mhm
and that we will send them the er the the er the samples
the samples
the samples okay
yeah
otherwise you 'll be stuck for the rest of your life to mister a_[lastname8]
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er of course it is special to
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he 's
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yeah that 's the truth
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i thought he was
yeah
at the beginning
i thought he was your biggest friend _0
but then
the update of the s_a and s_p you got i assume xxx as well so it 's clear for you
a-
at the very beginning @@@@
yeah i received this
yeah yeah
yeah it was clear for me yeah _0
mhm _2
@ _0
mhm
mister a_[lastname9]
mhm _2
er he also asked for _1 some items we did not h- have any more or something like that so
yeah a_[thing4] er the the planet erm
and then he wanted to have er _1 i think we made some enquiries and _0 we said that we could do that or yes
mhm we 've sent er him a palate of _0 er ice age _0 i thought _1
yeah
because the or erm yeah we were out of stock of that and it was not on our assortment any more _0
yeah
mhm
and he asked us for er _0 yeah if it was possible of yeah
mhm _0
that he er _0 could get an a palate of er _0 ice age
mhm
and he 's also er
you never know what he does with it
did have the the promotion trucks wha- _0
yeah there 's
were they for a_[lastname8] as well
yeah this wa- they were all for a_[lastname8] _0 and i think he will give the promotion trucks away _0
aha
when xx selling er
so it 's his his own promotion
as an incentive
yeah it 's his own promotion yeah
yeah
mhm
mhm
yeah _2
mhm
and he was interested in the arctic planet
mhm _0 mhm
mhm _0
yeah would be good
it 's a yeah _0 that 's only two cartons _0 so yeah i can not introduce er _0 a new s_sk s_sku for only two cartons so _0 that was the reason why
ah just for two cartons
yeah _1
yeah
uhu _0
they 're really interested
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wow
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his idea was to give it away _0
to _0
aha
and just to use the the one s_sku to as a present as well
yeah
so maybe we in the future we can _0 erm yeah order it but then get it _0 without a a without a system or something like that but _0
mhm
it is yeah
you are sure just
just to send it over as a sample
as a as a sample yeah
mhm yeah
and that 's it
as a sample and we can just deduct from s_a and s_p and
yeah
yeah
no problem
yeah
@@ _1 i please
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please _0
okay
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don-
do n't do this
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you know he
come on
try to m- to make to build a business here er
an- and not to please mister a_[lastname9]
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for samples
for samples
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please send me over
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can i go er to a for a quick break at the er
mhm
yeah
yeah
me as well
for me as well be- before we start with the news @
yeah
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