x here and fifty per cent here so basically what you have to do

for a quarter you take this number and multiply it with that yeah so you have twenty-five per cent multiplied with one point zero five eight for example for october

and then you multiply it with one point one four six for november and the same for december so e rm overall the achievements for [org1] and [org2] are somewhere in the range between one hundred five and one hundred fifteen per cent for the period october to december erm this means e rm okay if you take that together it 's fifty per cent you multiply it with that so finally a h no sorry that was wrong it was erm yeah that 's that 's right xx so hh erm so you exceed this fifty per cent yeah

mhm

twenty-five plus twenty-five but it 's not the limit you can go beyond that and this is what happens so basically erm the the whole qpse is one hundred per cent

and you would get not considering the [org3] part something between fifty and fifty-five per cent for october to december

so we will get it in march it will be for the

no

last quarter

we wo n't get it

we wo n't get it

okay there is one important explanation and this is here it 's mentioned that these are the numbers for q three yeah hh e r you have to understand the business here of [org2] starts in april which means q three is our q four or is let 's say the q four of a calendar year

that 's q three of the business year of [org2] hh this means it means these are the numbers

yeah from october to december

so first time we will see our name in these statistics is january february march

exactly yeah

which is not xx

so we should get the numbers like mid or end of april something like that and then we should see the first time this xx for a year

and basically i guess we should here crop up at one of these categories mhm and then when you have this email you can directly calculate how much xxx you will see and of course i mean you have to e rm you have to take your overall qplc amount divided by four yeah cos it 's concerning one quarter

okay

mhm

is this clear so far

mhm

okay erm

h- how is the bonus taxed we pay full tax for it or

it 's just normal payment yeah

okay

there 's no difference

so we also it 's also covers som e social insurance and other stuff or it 's only the

do n't the social versicherung taken off for bonus of extra pays it 's just tax

it depends how they they do and the tax low yeah

it 's it 's just just a regular part of the salary so i gue ss it 's exactly the same as as salary

yeah

yeah

because it 's part xx yeah yeah so

so but you do n't pay soci al versicherung for bonuses

so the

hm

but it 's pa- part of the salary though is n't it

i do n't know xx we have to ask for it

yeah

it 's it 's part you know it 's taken

xxxxxx payment is part of the salary but bonus is something extra

yeah

no

so it 's not trea ted as a special

in

as much it is

i- in the contract there is part of the salary so what you get is well we 'll see i guess

okay are there any other questions today no

i heard some rumours that the [org4] group has floated around in the organizational ma- matrix

hh yeah that 's er under discussion erm basically what is the direct report line and what 's the dotted report line so basically who 's the boss of the of the the team hh e rm what is clear is where will the boss will be in the end that people will most probably work for both business units yeah for both [org5] and [org4] hh but it 's not yet really clear who 's the boss

yeah

erm okay

hhh well i guess that 's quite normal when you when you change or when you 're acquired by another company that it takes some time until the organization is is clear

yeah that 's true and i 've seen that recently we 've been sent a email with a questionnaire about the integration progress

mhm

and okay and i did n't read personally because i forgot my password but er

er [firstname1] has shown it to me and okay for most of the questions the answer would be negative i do n't know if it was the case for other guys

same here

but yeah we do n't feel inte grated at all i 'd say

the only thing which was n't already this qplc thing and most that 's it i do n't feel the integration going on

mhm

m hm

i mean i feel it because the computer 's not working or what it 's not a thing we should worry we guess

and we get more spam mails as well yeah

so may- i i 'm afraid that they have sent this email a a little too early and they may be really a- astonished by the result if they were all honest

yeah

but

hhh yeah it depends erm obviously in er in such integration phases many companies see the integration more taking place in the area of er administration and finance and so on hh so erm you know there are plans fo r introducing sap and things like that yeah erm so maybe maybe we are not aware that there is not much integration going on yet in the engineering

mhm

that might very well be

okay but these questions were actually addressed to us so i i 'm just think th- w- they should really get feedback that

okay

maybe they should resend it in

at least they

three months or something like that

no but maybe that 's exactly what they want to see because maybe

what they want

at least we got a highlight there you know yeah

you know may-

yeah maybe the management has the has the feeling the integration should have erm

finished by now

er not finished but should have progressed further hh and it has n't

o h

okay

so i think it 's it 's the right thing to just er honestly answer these questions instead of saying ye ah okay it 's too early send it again in two months hh

okay yeah that 's maybe maybe it will be sent by default in two months

mhm

hh erm yeah i do n't know erm if you are aware about what 's going on in the it currently so on the weekend obviously they have changed all the ip addresses of all computers in the in the company hh so this does not apply only to here this also applies to [place1] and and [place2] and erm yeah people are wondering why this is so difficult you just change the address and that 's it but it 's actually not that easy yeah we have erm we have many servers running we have many ser vices running and all that has to be updated at the same time so i think it 's although it 's painful it 's normal that some things do not work at the moment

was there any plan behind it before it started because i have a feeling okay i do n't know how complicated it is of course but er in a well-organized company it would be first f- er four weeks of preparations and then switch over during weekend

and a lot of risk should be already foreseen before

mhm

yeah

and you know in well-organized companies it 's exactly the same and anyway it does not work after the weekend

no -o

yeah

no ser iously it does

i mean at [org6] they have these regular checks and blah blah blah things like this they moved to [org7] and i have not really felt that something did n't work i mean from it side i was just wondering if we if somebody took care of organizational this beforehand be- because now we are losing a lot of money because

yeah okay

i know fifty per cent of people ca n't work

okay e r if you just addressed the move to [org7] that 's quite easy because er they do n't have the it any more in [place1] it 's in [place3] and they anyway just er connect er remotely so you know that 's much easier than moving servers and services and so on

no okay this we ca n't really decide because we do n't know what 's behind it but

yeah

what i mean is just a question was anybody taking care of organizing this switch-over

i mean we were not involved in that that 's er that 's the task of it and erm i have not discussed that i just know that erm [firstname2] has proposed hh e rm at least once to move that so it should have been done earlier and he said we are not yet prepared yeah erm so i guess there was some planning yeah

okay

were the changes just ip address switch-overs or is it structural cha- changes also so will we see any benefit in network performance

n - no no it 's just ip addresses at the moment hh but in general we had a good discussion last week with the it integration manager he came here from [place4] hh and er basically they er they plan erm for a period of three months to to look at all the services all the hardware servers and so on and and update that or replace it if necessary so erm in in like three months we should see erm new desktops probably new servers new services so this should be done roughly in in three months something like that yeah hh and we said

yeah we appreciate that they take some time to do all that erm instead of just changing everything from one day to the next without you know because the the goal is that it 's xxx if we have this new structure er it should be easy to just add fifty people to it hm that 's the major goal

and is that true that we will all get pcs at s- at some point

er that 's the standard [org2] solution yeah the er [org2] normally has a pc so erm documentation mail web all that is done on a pc hh and then you just have a citrix login for the design work erm it 's not finally decided yet but e rm it looks like the most likely solution because erm probably we have the best support if we do that because erm [org2] has only pcs with a maintenance erm contract or support contract erm they have e rm what 's the english word erm you know remote administration software installed on each pc

mhm

erm so basically the pcs would n't be necessarily maintained any more from here but from er from probably the [place5] erm but that 's also an advantage because then we have twenty-four seven support we have a standard installation each pc has the same installation we have all programs on the pc and so on so we probably have the best support and these standard tasks could be taken away from our local it hh to the central it and then the local guys here can concentrate on the supporting the

the people with special erm topics

special okay

and what happens with all the licences we already have for [org8] are these directly transferable to pc or were they bought xx unix in mind

no we we would n't work on pc yeah we still have the citrix login to unix to solaris so this this does n't change we wo n't do the i mean you do n't get the design work on er the design software on pc

mhm

so this we stay on solaris or linux or so

where where will we have the servers here [place5] [place6] or

e r which servers

[place7] the servers we are going to work on

what do you mean with servers

big machines to run the tasks on

they will be here

a h

there is a strategy at [org2] to centralize the it but that 's more mid- or long-term strategy so for the moment the machines would be here e rm som e services or servers will also move away so for example finally we probably wo n't have mail servers any more here erm so currently we still have the [org3] mail server and erm the [org2] mails are forwarded to the [org3] mail server but this will change so finally we will directly get the mails or use the mail servers of [org2] in the [place5]

when is it planned

do n't know what 's the schedule

okay it 's a very good idea actually er i was thinking if i had to stay let 's say in [place1] for a couple of days i would not have access to my emails because [org3] does n't offer the web access and

mhm

mhm

[org2] does

yeah

yeah the web access currently is more or less disabled because the mails are forwarded to [org3] yeah as soon as erm the [org3] servers do not exist any more we can also use the webmail then additionally yeah i think everybody who gets a laptop erm so that 's currently mainly the project managers will have a vpn installed and then e r wherever you can access the internet you can download your emails also but only with the standard [org2] installation not the the old [org3] installation

so you you use we know with that erm scenario you ca n't erm access the development area then from from our vpn

that 's not yet set out by [org2] they are currently working on that on a on a solution like

o kay

probably tarantella or so

okay yeah whatever

e rm but that 's ongoing that 's not yet solved erm what is important to understand is they distinguish the it into two parts one is what they call erm i think backbone yeah

infrastructure x

and then the second part is project so the backbone is like the standard installation everybody needs email documentation and so on and that 's normally pc and the project then might be for a software project that we need erm a compiler or whatever hh e r it might be for a ic design project that you need a complete infrastructure like a unix network licences and so on so that 's split yeah so the guys we currently talk to in [place4] they are backbone yeah and er they will now involve somebody from [place8] for for the project yeah and they involve also us for the project requirements

mhm

so that 's that 's split

does that mean that we can then share licences as well then across sites or or is that nothing for future

i think that 's that 's certainly the future plan but currently we can not because

mhm

our licences or our our erm licence contracts do not allow that at the moment

x x

and the [org2] ones also do not allow it yeah

we do n't have multi-site licences

well yeah erm er i mean we have multi-site licences but just for our three sites yeah

a h okay

and e r [org2] probably has also i think they have multi-site licences but only for [place7]

m hm

because all the the ic design so far is done in [place7] hh so the contracts have to be changed and erm i do n't know if you can just change them somewhere in the middle maybe they run till the end and they are changed then

ev- everything negotiable i think yeah

es pecially for [org2]

just a matter of money yeah

yeah exactly

and yeah you know the the who le blsi team is very big that 's i think more than thousand people

m hm

but most of them are in the odcs in the offshore design centers and there they get the licences the infrastructure and everything from the customer e rm so the the the re al erm

yeah how to call it design service team which is available for any customer is much much smaller so it 's e rm they are in a similar situation as we are in terms of licences and infra structure and so on yeah

mhm

okay

so it 's not that we suddenly have a a partner with fifteen hundred engineers and e rm er ten times more licences than we have that 's not the case

mhm okay i- is has there any discussion regarding the lab network internet a nd so on

erm i have er kicked that off e rm after the discussion with you

mhm

er we have been discussing that in the rnd management team there is one thing which is also not yet clear erm this business unit [org4] er will do analogue mixed signal ip design and then the ips probably would have to be characterized and so on and that would be done in the lab so there is still a long list of equipment hhh erm er which is probably bought for the lab which is then erm probably financed by [org4] and not you know by [org5]

mhm

so it 's not er let 's say the lab responsibility is also not yet clear that 's linked to the e r to your question that 's the e rm location of the team downstairs is not yet fully clear in the organization hhh e rm but in general yeah we e r erm we are discussing that

okay

who could be responsible for it erm i think the im- the most important input from your side was erm the the safety in the lab ye ah i mean this made us e rm y- yeah think about it erm be cause this should be i mean this should be clear if you go into the lab that somebody gives you an introduction and and so on hh and there is also this discussion with with the it in the lab yeah i mean you brought up a good point that it might be might be good to lock the lab and then only certain people have access and then er we put the pcs in our normal network and not in this separated network

yeah

so there are actually many topics to discuss and we have started that but i do n't know how long it takes especially the it because yeah the time frame is

yeah

three months at least

yeah okay mhm

are there any plans to utilize the floor space upstairs because if you are going to bring more work into the lab other groups you do n't have enough space there

that 's a good point yeah you need to make it bigger

probably so

mhm

is that spoken about

no there are no concrete clan- er plans to do that but as the the erm third floor second floor is not used otherwise we can do that any time yeah so it 's basically no problem in terms of in frastructure and so on

cos that is

controlled access yeah

a h you mean the third floor just for the lab

just for

yeah

o kay no that 's

x

that room you can make with controlled access as well yeah

twenty per cent of the company only is a lab

then you deter- that that e r room there you can make it controlled access as well

okay

mhm

you just put your e r id chip in and then it you know locks in and locks in

mhm

yeah we can try that yeah erm but it seems to work okay but it just need to be like a chip card used to be but you can e r automatically lock in when you go out so

i mean e r it de pends on how much we do in the end in the lab

e rm you know we also have this wafer prober for example so we are

mhm

we are thinking about utilizing that to to offer that as a service no- not for i mean obviously we can not do it for for production e r like testing production testing er but we could do a characterization qualification e r such things on the wafer prober and we had requests from other companies where they were asking whether we can do that for them or not

wafer prober we have wafer prober

we have a wafer prober yeah

is this already installed there some where

yeah

no

yeah no

still wrapped up

but it seems to be a quite good one actually

xxxx

e r for the

we just can make sure that you put in a basement e r xxxxxx floor

yeah basically we have to take the floor out and put it on the concrete

well okay yeah that 's very vibration-sensitive but it is a tester or just a prober

it 's e r ooph

because that 's a huge difference

i do n't know i think it 's a prober

of tens of millions dollars

ye ah i think it 's just a prober

so it 's just a prober bound to do analysis of xxxx but not character ization and xxxx yeah

but

we can do e- exactly

yeah but we can do that er of of x yeah we do n't need a or on a on a wafer yeah we do n't need a packaged x yeah

mhm okay yeah but

and obviously erm there is even a possibility to have e rm like pad holes somewhere in the middle of the design i mean of obviously not real pads but you know like

mhm

holes yeah

xx

and then you can even contact signals in the design

mhm mhm

yeah but they must be explicitly designed there are n't even there quite big

hh yeah and for longer you probably need er proper drivers and so on if you take analogue design and we put the needles only in middle of the design it most probably does n't work any more

yeah

that can be

so we got some quite good equipment there from [place9] a nd have to set all that up and so this discussion in ongoing but honestly i do n't know how long it takes any other questions

hm

okay then i have a question what are the first results

the first what results

the first results

no results yet i mean i 'm gon na analyze this stuff at home at first i have to transcribe it which is quite a time-consuming er process then we 'll see

okay do we get the results

wha-

yeah sure

what 's the results then it 's

hm

what 's the results it 's er

e r actually i 'm not i do n't know yet what i 'm going to analyze which

aspect it can be maybe it 's some tiny little lexical grammatical thin g or it 's a pragmatic

a h okay

xx

thing how how you e r take turns in speaking some kind of discourse analytical stuff so ooph

or maybe she 's just selling this records to [org9] or

this information

no no

that would be probably most profitable

do you find that there is mistakes made specific to people from the different countries like maybe swedish people say something in

mhm

some way in english and there are german people who say it in a nother way

yeah no er this is not our aim to describe

okay

which mother tongue has this e rm specifics in english it 's only about english as ling- lingua franca in general er what it looks like and we think that it has its own regularities and it 's an own language erm different from english which is spoken by native speakers of english and since there are so many people around the world nowadays who speak english but do n't have it as a mother tongue it 's yeah ooph quite a project

mhm

i i think we are also i mean here it 's probably difficult because people like [firstname3] he 's here since a couple of years and i i think the even the e rm the the native speakers get messed up after some time with

with not not native english

maybe yeah

x that 's what [firstname4] told me all the time yeah he was also from from [place10] but he left us some time ago

mhm

scot land

eng land

sorry yeah scotland and he always said when he when he went home people looked at him and said

what 's up with you are n't you how do you speak i mean

mhm

he was talking slowly

yeah

so

but still it 's

but

it 's not about making mistakes i mean you still communicate although

mhm

there are some errors or mistakes but you still get your message- messages across and that 's what we 're trying to describe that it 's not important to speak erm perfect english when you wanted to communicate with other nations and other other languages

actually speaking perfect english really makes communication diff icul t

diff-

yeah

yeah okay there

i 've one quick question it 's got absolutely nothing to do with anything erm what with the company ski day there should be one towards the end of march for the french guys are gon na come up during the last two weekends and

i get these questions

everybody down there knows that but nobody here knows that

exactly i had a discussion with somebody from [place1] on friday and he also asked me about the ski day and i said i do n't know i have no information e rm just call [firstname5] he knows it certainly

okay

but i do n't know anything about it at the moment

i 've heard some rumours that it would be on between tenth and twentieth of march

the last two weekends of march i think they put up the possibilities in france and people would say whether they could attend or not

that 's when 's sain-

i 've heard it 's saint patrick 's day is on friday and then the next saturday is skiing day and some people i will not mention the names say that they will be completely drunk on friday so can not participate on saturday i mean it 's funny

that wo n't be the irish people huh

no no i 'm not saying anything

could be very funny

i- i just do n't know

it 's also i 've heard the ru mour that e r maybe we will go skiing somewhere brandnertal or some thing like this and then go to sing bar

mhm

for night

okay

but this is just a rumour also heard in cafeteria

yeah and

[firstname5]

should put a microphone into the cafeteria you 'd hear really interesting things

mhm

exactly you know

er i spoke with [firstname5] once and he was thinking about organizing a a race not just a normal ski day

oh fuck

no

that 's killing for the schedule of all projects

so if we go to brandnertal then i think it 's quite likely that he organizes a race because he has talked about brandnertal and and the race

okay

okay

because i mean we always went to stenten normally

stenten or also brandnertal i think a couple of years ago

yeah only once yeah

mhm

okay then thank you er m our next team meeting would actually be on friday but i 'm skiing on friday so now i 'm out er wednesday till friday

so we have the next one next week then

mhm

or we can do one tomorrow if you want but it 's maybe xxxx

okay thanks

okay thank you