i 'm working for a research project at the university of vienna it 's the english department
mhm
er which is er looking at english as a lingua franca which is what you 're using today eng lish
what we 're doing today
what you 're doing today erm erm so english amo ng people who do n't have it as a first language but use it as a foreign language
mhm
mhm
and we 're again conne- er collecting a huge database of interactions in english as a lingua franca erm in order to describe what this english has for specific features and we 're not really looking for mistakes but we 're looking at the specific ru les or the specifi c erm features that are at play here
okay
so it 's not about mistakes or anything and it 's going to be used for e r scientific purposes for linguistics erm it 's aiming for one million words of english erm which is about on e hundred forty hours of recorded conversations
hm okay
o h
e rm and that will be available as a resource for linguists erm by two thousand and eight pro bably
okay
so
how non-natives talk together
okay
hm
yeah
u- use the right right wordin gs and
and
and how they under stand each other
no
yeah but x
but that that 's really true when we use words which are incorrect normally a- all the people who are not natives they they understand it
they understand it
yeah
yeah
they just nod and and that 's it you know although the word is not correct but
true
who cares
yeah
first of all and
or we switch to german
yeah right or we switch
so thank you very much
no no no do n't switch
no
no no no
some practice for you no
sh-
yeah ok- o- that could be fine but i i i used to to talk german rather well but e r
we could we could confuse them
oh yeah
yeah just just
yeah then we so we just add some german words to the the the english language
the memories
yeah right
okay
would you like to have coffee
er tea please
or wa ter tea
tea
she 's yeah more the
ah
ja ja hab ich schon
we have er blue we have blue tea
sag es mir wenn du noch heisses wasser brauchst
blue tea
which one
sag dem [firstname1] wir brauchen den blue tea
blue tea
blue tea
cof fee
for you
yes please
thank you
[S1] sie haben auch noch keinen gell
switch off my phone
nein
darf ich eh
gerne dankeschoen
hm
you have a chicken
weil wenn ich patze dann patze ich gleich xx
oh my phone not my chickens
okay sorry
chickens i heard that before chickens
dankeschoen
chickens
yeah that 's what [firstname1] told me yesterday chickens xx
aha in the back
three chickens in the back of the car
ah yeah
mhm
oh i did n't remember
you did n't hear it
no
no
i was n't listen to that remark
xxx to get blue tea
yeah yeah
xxx
red tea is also open
x
wh- which
red tea
red tea red tea
red
no red tea could the could the rooibos tea
exactly
red tea
what
red tea could be rooibos
o h
rooi bush tea
yeah yeah
yeah rooi bos
x yeah
yeah rooibos could be x xxx xxxxx ja
is it allowed to take off my jacket
yes just feel yourself at home [S2] as long as you sell enough
we can take it off
feel yourself at home
milk
yes please
o kay
with gas without gas
e r without gas please
some more a bit more hm
stir not shake huh
thank you so we saw a lot of japanese this morning in er there in in the breakfast room
sure
millions of them
think they all went to the casino yesterday even ing
yeah
they were not happy this mor ning
[S2] with or without
the the lo- ja danke
long night
no it 's fine just coffee
ja ich auch nicht
okay sie koennen sich eh nehmen wenn wenn
ja ja danke
oder wollen sie mit ohne gas
toilet 's on the erm er toilet er m left-hand x or
par don me
on left side the toilets
yes yes yes
yeah
okay
er here
right after the stairs
the stairs up
er the stairs
up the stairs left side
the en trance
you had a good rest so far
so far it was a little bit hot in the you know in the hotel room
yeah [S4] - [S4] said the same
rea lly
yeah
yeah
so i opened the window and e r
mhm
turned already on the heater maybe
it was
yeah
mor ning
morning
xxxx
xxxxxx
but er well for the rest it was okay
mhm mhm and is it very loud there during the night
i did n't hear a thing so but i 'm was in the in the inner cir- and in the yeah so we 're in the backyard so
mhm
in the back in the backyard
i did n't hear anything so
oh that 's good mhm
so er yeah but i er yeah it was warm but er and i also had had e r i 'm already suffering three or four days er of a sore throat so y- this evening
mhm
at the
mhm
yesterday evening due to the talking yeah
laughing
and the laughing
i really felt my throat e r
yeah yeah mhm
so e r but i ta- i took a small aspirin and i think within er
in the morning
within within fifteen minutes i was completely gone so
very good
when x when there is such a dry heat
yeah m hm
out of the dry air in in
yeah
the room
yeah
then it 's that 's bad
but the beds were perfect in the hotel yeah
yah
it 's a good good bed it 's a
mhm
very good
yeah
mhm the agenda for for today will be we will go er through all the e r sales review and so on and so on and so on and when we come to the point of er [thing2] [firstname1] will join us
okay
to do e r the presentation of [thing2] and then afterwards we talk
on ba by and the baby sheep
right
takes just two hours
do n't worry
and
they ask for the door you know
which door
the high light
the door we mentioned the new door
your new door
a h the new door
xxx xxx
yeah we al so wanted to to have the discussion on which car we are er
i completely forgot it already
okay
xxxx
oh by the way this is the new door
yeah it looks great but
and er today we also show you some new
yeah
er products
great
er for your further investigation or review and then we can see or whether you 'll welcome one or the other product
okay
yeah
yeah and and it 's er do you already have an an overview on on er the the licence sheets for e r
yeah sure
coming year
m hm
mhm we 've
as well as well
the news presen tation we have
mhm
okay great
that for you as well
mhm mhm
it 's
die machen wir noch gell machst du ja ja
ja
before
yeah yeah
before we start with the [thing2]
just yeah yeah because it 's it 's yah when you are doing all this normal business e r
so maybe also we talk about the plan before we we er
we can do this as well yeah yeah and keep [thing2] for er
introduce [thing2]
do i have to close the door or xx xx x
for the last xx
yes please
yes no
we
yes please mhm
er thanks for the tea
the blue tea
yeah
i prefer e r pfefferminze tea
m hm
kraeuter tee
kraeutertee
kraeutertee
this is a sheet i prepared
thank you
yeah thank you
er for you with all ex sales data without e rm the er the order for xx which just came yesterday and
yeah
it 's not included here so it 's
[firstname2] sent you yesterday an order right e r
yes she sent it yesterday afternoon
yeah
and e rm she told me that it was very
it
it 's i have it here it 's around twenty-six thousand euros so sh e ordered e r mickey mouse blister heffalump cars best of [org2] and eight packs
and shelf displays i think
shelf displays as well
yeah
fifty-four
because it 's very important to
for the
to get those yeah
scratch and win pro motion
yeah
no but [firstname3]
because xxx for promotion at this moment and there
worked already with it and
yeah
it should be fine everything but it 's not included here in this file
no okay yeah
yeah concerning stocks we talked about it yesterday i think we have to put mo re effort in e r in stock control ourselves
m hm
what we e r what we see is e r sometimes we make estimations also now on this activity we make e- est- estimations on on okay er er we think that we can sell four hundred er of these er these promotional items
mhm
and now finally the outcome is that we se- will sell at least six hundred a nd
mhm
and when those things occur you normally should have had more than sufficient stock to m- to continue that promotion and now
mhm
the- these things happen and then we have to order and of course yeah you you guys have your production time so that will take at least two weeks
three weeks yeah
yeah
yeah two or three weeks so an- and then finally we are ending up without stocks and that 's
mhm
when and you know lost sales where you have out of stocks it 's a lost sales
m hm
right
so e r
mhm mhm
so we also concluded already that we have to one of the tasks we are having now is put mo re even more focus on on e r on stocks and and and rotations
m hm mhm
yeah to to e r to at least e r make sure that we do n't face any out of stocks any more
mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm
cos that 's e rm
i do n't know er i think we 're
have the right level of stocks
yeah and that 's of course that 's difficult because of all the
available
mhm
the the different lines and er i think you 're you 're you 're guys are facing the same problems as we have
right
mhm
eve ry day
it 's er
yeah every day and and and and accumulated on e r
every day
mhm
it 's a play every day
yeah so it 's
incredible mhm
and you never know what
right
how successful e r a licency will be but e r
mhm
mhm mhm
i think it 's wise to at lea- to put more more focus behind it
yeah
m hm mhm mhm
and the n that we been doing now
mhm
yeah [firstname2] - [firstname2] is work- is doing is analyzing it every week
mhm
yeah and every week look at stocks and rotations and sales and orders and forecasts but e rm especially on the promotional side we have to e r to e r
mhm
get more informa tion out of
yeah
out of the market and from the account managers
yeah
mhm mhm and sponge bob is is sold out now or
hm a bit left from stan ding bags
yeah
we have some
but yeah
i thought e r
okay
about
twenty-one plus two
yeah three hundred sku e r
m hm
yeah stand ard bag
mhm but not a big quantity any more
yeah
but the blisters are all s- sold
mhm
yeah
yeah
okay how could we could throu gh through this meeting e rm because i have made a a presentation you can go through it or
mhm
do you have your
we can go through it
m- i think a- most of the items er on your agenda will be in here and o therwise we can discuss
mhm
okay then we can we can
mhm
yeah
shall i
go it on it yeah
or you you want to discuss the file first
we can e r also discuss
yeah okay
your files and
yeah
and come back to this one no problem thank you
thank you very much
do you want also an er presentation erm i 've forgotten what your name it
xxx xx
[S1]
[S1]
[S1]
no
no
no that 's fine thanks
okay
i 've printed out that 's one for you
thank you
well prepared wow
yeah
it was very heavy in my suitcase but er
but there was plenty of room
it 's always too less erm well yeah you have also
[S2] what what you are seeing here these are our sales to you
i know i know but i 'm che cking with my sys tem
mhm mhm
okay
okay
okay
mhm
the the thing is what i found out looking at figures
yeah
what i found out our in-market sales is is thirty-five per cent above last year
o kay
mhm
a nd but when i looked at the information i 've got from from a buying point of view
m hm
i saw that we were on the same er at the same level as last year but now i 'm looking here at these figures a nd here i see that we 're not on the same level so i 'm
m hm
now questioning my own er buying e r sales figure so there must be something wrong in the system
mhm
mhm so you have
in m- in our system
mhm
you have lower figures than
yeah far lower
this
okay
so e r i was that 's also i w- i was really looking into it and i
m hm
i could n't find a solution why the difference was so huge
mhm
cos i what i saw is a a growth of thirty-five per cent in market
mhm
mhm
and a buying value exactly the same as last year and i could n't match that also not looking at stocks because there was not a big difference in stock level
yeah
mhm
so i was really thinking hey how is this possible and also when you l- l ook at this slide it 's e rm it 's not in the presentation but
mhm
mhm
when you look at this slide this is the e r the absolute sales per period
mhm
so that 's er that 's above last year a bove last year above last year above last year above last year this one okay that was last year 's
they 're just pi- pieces
mhm
e r [org3] e r loading in
delivery mhm
delivery so that was below but again above a bove
mhm
and when i look then at the
buying
the buying e r tha- that 's that 's this and there okay tha- that 's cumulative but
mhm
er
the index es were yeah
you know the the indexes are ar e
mhm
o- okay sometimes good but sometimes very worse and and
m hm
i couldn- i could n't match that so but now
mhm
e r some some
we are above
some thing something is wrong in e r in in er in our system somewhere you know at least in ou- in my buying figures
compared to last year
mhm
mhm
mhm mhm no we increased we increased the the buying volume compared to last year b-
yeah
b y about sixty thousand sixty thousand euros was haben wir zweitausendfuenf
yeah because two thousand five we had two hundred and seventy thousand
yeah right
in total we see
in total year and now we are on two hundred seven ty-seven
in total we see it here and and
yeah
so and we still have
hm
ri g ht some
four
x and then it 's
four months to go
october
s ome
octo ber order was twenty-six thousand so that that 's
yeah
yeah
four months left so and and e rm
and without the order of yesterday and so on
we will probably end up
that 's with out er with out yeah yeah
yeah
to meet the plan you know so then you can see the growth
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah
so we have around three hundred now including october order and then still
yeah
november december
november december so
yeah
yeah
so we 'll match
you should match the plan more or less
we will match the plan yeah
right
this i was read ing and think how was this possible and e r
yeah
mhm mhm mhm mhm
mhm
did we do something wrong with in voicing or whatever so e r
mhm
that 's an er great task for me to check
or did sponge bob duplicate it in the warehouse
be cause there is xx
he
it 's a naugh ty guy yeah so you never know
because
they were there for so such a long time you know
sponge bob in the underwear
yeah right
maybe without underwear
that could have been an explanation to that
yeah we have we have we how have this new item it 's it 's ba by sponge bob
yeah right the baby the baby
ba by b baby c and baby sponge bob
yes
and baby worm
baby born y- that 's
worm
okay worm m hm
worm yeah
okay
okay e rm well here you can see e r the agenda e r i we we will talk about in-market sales iri figures e r
mhm
a- activities of er two thousand six er what we 're e r are going to do in er yeah next year and what we yeah es timate
mhm
e r
m hm
in sales x x xx xx
mhm
e rm well on er the this page you can see the in-market sales and here e rm er you can see in the first table e rm the figures of two thousand and five erm till sep tember
mhm
mhm
and i have accumulated that to e r the total of quarter one er quarter two and quarter three and erm the last column erm are figures of er er on dis pensers
mhm
mhm
and then you can see how many dispensers we have sold er in two thousand five till this moment
but just the first three quarters it 's total dispen- dispensers of the first three quarters mhm
dis pensers
yeah e rm and the second table you can see er the figures of yeah of the dispensers e r for this year and there you can see that we have an increase of er thirty per cent if you e r compare two thousand five x xxx
so the last co lumn is two thousand six january to
this er table 's e r two thousand six and this one is er two thousand five yeah
ach so then the this x okay got it mhm
mhm
and if you e rm er should take out [org3]
mhm
and the x is much er much higher but er i i think it 's still okay here
mhm and are highs i- also aah is [org3]
but i read that
yeah
here
okay
yeah sorry yeah that 's [org3]
mhm
and i 've made some items e r grey o r invisible
mhm
e r and e rm that are the yeah that are the items which are not er dispenser which can also see that er erm that there is higher sales in e r fruit e r refill packs and also with the cola blisters e rm i hope you can er read it because it 's rea lly invisible
mhm
but last year e rm we have sold thirteen hundred e r fruit refill blisters and this year e rm yeah we have sold more than four thousand
four thousand
mhm
but that 's also an high increase hh and i think that has to do
mhm
yeah with more distribution and e r with er placing in the b- the best place
you had cola as a xxx as well yeah
yeah we have introduced the cola b- er blister or we 've sold till this moment e r yeah more than er one thou sand erm
mhm
that 's our sku
the minis they are more or less e rm gone
the minis yeah yeah but i think erm
but with the last order you 're you ordered er
small quanti ty
minis
yeah
yeah a small quantity
from the stand-up bags
from the stand- up bags yes
okay
cos i was i was
er the
surprised
sur prised because e rm
yeah
during the whole year there was no order
yeah
but i think that hh and
we had a lot of stocks
mhm
still from last year on that product
yeah
and you know e r when er when we have one customer ordering a product we just order it e r it 's
mhm
yeah
it 's also o ur bit of service er to customer so
hm
mhm
i think you have e r created a new stand-up blister
yeah
er which will replace e r w- which will replace e r the stand- up bags yeah
mhm
the stand-up yeah
the stand-up bag and then probably x x x
yeah
and i think we will yeah we will follow that because e r
mhm
er this look is more uniformity the er uni formity in the shelves of the
yeah
mhm
blisters and then yeah we think about er what we will do with the stand-up blister but i think yeah we we can kick it off e r can kick out the st-
the stand-up bag you mean
yeah
mhm
the stand- up bag with the minis
yeah
yeah yeah yeah
yeah
i mean
no
because if if you
the stand-up bag should should fade out
mhm okay yeah
more or less
yeah because if we have no stand-up bags any more that 's irrational
no there is no time pressure behind but
yeah
yeah
erm
be cause we probably have enough foil but when it 's
in a few months they just they just faded yeah
yeah
when it 's gone then
yeah
we 're also x x x not prepared
and what dates e r do you want to e r kick up only stand-up bags have you prepare er erm one special er event or xx xx or xxx o kay
no we will we will
no we 're flexible
right right yeah mhm
in all the countries we can discuss it as as soon you er would like to have them
yeah
yeah
be cause to
okay
we have to discuss if you er would like to have the same bar code or if you would like have another bar code
okay
depends on your system as well
yeah yeah okay
hm the th- the thirteen per cent increase in in that 's only in blisters so that 's excludin g e r the refills
yeah
a nd that 's until september
yeah
so that 's comparabl e figures sept ember september
yeah it 's re- yeah
yeah there 's a double dispenser also but not the dispensers in the [thing3] or in [thing4] but e r
yeah yeah m hm
o nly the dispensers
but in food our main customers are still [org4]
[org4] yes
and [org5]
[org5] and some e r members of er [org6]
a ha okay
and some er e r and [org7]
here
yeah
[org6] just in one this this fun meter
yeah also in as an ass ortment er product but also in e r in now in the
in shelf
in this test we 're doing this is very successful e r by the way
yeah
m hm mhm
it 's that fun and food e r pro je ct
yeah
but you have asked me to print out er our figures of er sales per customer and per part
m hm
m hm
there you can see which erm
mhm
which clients e r erm
and [org5] these are are the the the name of the of the shops are
yeah
are [org5]
yeah
yeah it 's called [org5]
okay mhm
and the se e r but we are we do n't have distribution they are through the head office because they ar e agai- against mo- yeah via wholesalers
but via a wholesaler
yeah right mhm via the racks
yeah
mhm mhm
and e r we have some i think we we have we brought some iri figures as well to sh- to
yeah
show you rotations
yeah
mhm
they are
mhm
er enormous so e r
mhm mhm m hm
it 's e r
for us and that 's also in the plan for next year for us it 's it 's key to er to get the
the displays
to get displays in
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
it 's it 's all a matter of pos it 's e r dominance dominance dominance
mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm
mhm
no you can not compare the rotation out of shelf and and
no
it 's here what i what i talked
on on the display
what i s- what i told [firstname1] yesterday rotations out of the shelf we see now an increase f- especially at [org4] because we
mhm
we got more dominance there we had two
mhm
two facings now we in av- we have in average four fa cings
mhm
er and you see the rotation go per store from four to seven
m hm
and there 's every-
per week mhm mhm
per week so there 's everything to do with
m hm
with with dominance yeah with presence
mhm
e r but when you compare that to a to a to a display where you put a
mhm
mhm
a half half wheel in the in the store
then you have twen ty and more
the- then yeah more than more than twenty
yeah yeah yeah yeah mhm
it 's i think it 's between twenty and forty e r depending on the store
mhm
mhm mhm m hm mhm
so you really can accelerate sales by putting in e r
mhm
mhm mhm
these er these old [org1] e r
yeah right m hm
and [thing5] displays
you 're right
[thing5] yeah
yeah
mhm mhm mhm
hm yeah
these these figures so t- to go back to your
yeah
yeah
e rm the two thousand and five and two thousand and six figure the two thousand and five is the total yea r
that 's that 's total it 's it 's total the whole year yeah and the total two thousand six is e rm
a h okay
okay
including september
and it 's total ye ar
and that 's total year yeah
and it 's un til september
it 's not xx mhm
so that 's three months less
mhm that 's true
okay
so and with dis pensers you can see that we are already above
mhm
yeah
last year and even on track according to our plan
mhm
the only thing is yeah with the [thing1] minis we discussed already and [thing4] there were no
yeah
no sales of [thing4] this year so far
with this year there were all sorts of good licence to e r of the erm cars was a good li cence and e r best of [org2] i think it 's also e r xx good
the cars yeah
mhm
best of [org2] it 's
yeah
selling quite well
yeah
er at least
so far yeah
at least the dispenser development matches with er with our in-market sales because when i recalculated we 'll end up between one hundred and thirty and one hundred and thirty-five index
m hm
m hm
so and that matches with my in-mar ket sales
mhm
mhm
mhm
okay yeah
yeah well at least that 's that 's correct
yeah
ooph
yeah
and it was also e r mis- er nearly thirty thousand mickey and minnie mouse in the first line which is fo r for the santa claus bag
yeah
mhm
and the single refills as well
i brought one back with me so i can show you
oh really oh that 's great
it 's in my suitcase but
mhm
it 's a surprise for e r [firstname4]
m hm
will you dare open it the suitcase
erm
the surprising suitcase er yeah and then the second er page
yeah
of this file you have all the different assortments so you can
yeah
we can check how many pieces of dispensers per assortment you ordered so there was the promotion the x xx promo- promotion and in the second quarter of cars
yeah
and just open season is left
yeah
so far
and my question was er do you know when er they release the dvds and e r
yeah
because the film
ah the dv d
yeah the film release is in october i thought
yeah
the dvd no we have to ask
that 's open season
mhm i saw it product
yeah
xx er it 's all with the displays
yeah
fifth of october yeah
in the sixty forty dis plays
but we can check it then with
there i 've point out e rm e rm the in-market sales per customer so
m hm
then i think was interested in that in we can through it but maybe yeah it 's more for you er e rm for your information you want it
mhm
mhm
i think it 's also perhaps it 's w- it 's also wise just to s- to to send this
yeah every
b y e r
in advance
yeah
in advance but also e r e rm digital so that you can make som e some sorts on e r
m hm
yeah
mhm
yeah
mhm
the big ger
ooph
the bigger
is it too little [S3] i 'm so rry
yeah
a bit
no no no that ca n't be becau- we er yesterday we came to the conclusion that you were still not too old so
yeah
but maybe a bit too short-sighted
er
these are the [org8] members
that your arms your arms are getting shorter or or what is it longer
just [org8] members xx e r hopefully you can we can see it 's e r [org8] that 's the total organization and here you have a specification of the members of [org8] [org8]
a h okay mhm
and there you can see
under point thirty-nine
yeah the [org9] e r
a ha [org9]
great
great sys tem we 're having no
yeah
poah
m hm
it 's pf
so these all belongs to [org8]
mhm
yeah which ha- no which have some of those only the the members which are now selling [thing1] so you can see e rm [org9] [org4]
mhm and then there 's still again [org8] - [org8]
xx
or is this the the total
that 's the total yeah that 's that 's sum of
of these ones
yeah
okay
that 's correct
mhm mhm and that 's always in pieces i guess
yeah it 's sku
mhm
sku
yeah
mhm
so the biggest client in food is [org8] which is an e r buying organization okay
it 's a buyer organization and i think they have fourteen members
mhm
and out of these fourteen members we are supplying one two three four f ive six seven
m hm
seven members do have the products and distribu tion
yeah
mhm
mhm [org10] is the cash and carry er one
yeah [org10] is a cash and carry organization
[org10] mhm
hh but a lot of a lot of things in holland are changing you know the we had this [org11] organization
mhm
a nd it 's falling apart
hm
really falling apart they had three formulas now they they sold out e r the [org12] formula they sold out the [org6] - no the [org13] hhh and i think from the whole organization that was two years ago it was more than one thousand stores an d i think they will end up with
three hundred and six ty-one
three hun dred and sixty
yeah
something like that and the rest has been sold to some members of [org8] to some [org3] - er to to [org3] to [org14] so they are really e rm r- really have are suffering now
m hm
so the yeah [org13] will disappear
mhm
m hm
a lot of changes are now in the in the landscape of er holland er going on with the stores yeah that 's e r
but [org6] belongs to [org11]
yeah but that 's now
okay and and they will remain
erm nobody knows but there 's
okay
hh i think they they will remain but i they wo n't n- they will not be powerful enough to su cceed
m-
mhm
just with one formula or only with three hundred sixty stores so they will
mhm
actively search for new partnershipping and perhaps where one or two members out of the [org8] er organization
m hm mhm
a nd e r you know the thing is [org8] in holland is a buying organization as she said she she said yourself
mhm
and they have fourteen or fifteen members
mhm
but those members are getting bigger and bigger but
mhm
the also what happens now is that they really come in each others region
m hm
in in the older days they had their own region and they were th- more or less they are the the the king of their re gion
yeah yeah yeah yeah
but now when by by taking over all the the stores from [org11] they enter each others re- they mix up
they mix up
they really mix up mhm
so now they have the same buying e r buying e rm er prices er
m hm
m hm
so they know ex act ly
m hm
what their competitor is doing in their region
mhm mhm
so that that will n ow or t- today or tomorrow will change and er i think one or some some [org8] members will step out
mhm mhm
m hm
and then perhaps we will find we will get a new cooperation with [org11] yeah nobody knows but that 's
yeah yeah yeah yeah
m hm
something will happen cos
but some some kind of concentration will
yeah and and a new buyin g or gani zation will will be set up i think
follow
m hm m hm
but okay e r it 's not for sure but this situation ca n't last forever
m hm
right i that 's not what i what i expect but er hh and x
but [ORG3] is still the strongest
[org3] and it 's doing very well [org3] is growing
m hm
and they started off this price war huh three years ago two and a half two e r two and a half three years ago and they are gaining market share
m hm
i think they now have nearly twenty-nine per cent market share
wow mhm
a nd e r but e r the thing now is in holland that nobody that that that being in the trade and working with the trade e r it 's it has never been er er as tough and hard as as er as it is now you know e r i talked yest- no er it what i s- last week i talk to [firstname5] [lastname5]
m hm
er concerning the [thing6] e r situation and they also confirm that that e r you make an appointment
mhm
and you have an agreement with [org3] and e rm er and you confirm that agreement the day after and then a week later they just say no we do n't have an agreement er we will do things to tally different
re ally
mhm
poah
and you know imagine yeah whe- when you 're on the table you have your negotiations it 's also part of e r you know you you 've have emo tions it 's it 's the m- the moment yeah you 're you always try to seek the moment
mhm
and okay and then you finalize your discussion you have an agreement put it on paper and a week later when they are really then then they sit back look at the agreement become more rational again and say no we ai n't gon na do it and they just wipe it off the table and e r and they do it constantly
mhm m hm
so it 's e r they dictate now what happens
mhm
what what you also see e r especially with [org3] hh everyone who now thinks that he can bring in a new brand
mhm
the first a- question they ask er can we get it at private label
mhm
m hm
a nd erm and they when you look at er in the in the when you now look in the confectionery shelf
mhm
i think f orty per cent of all the skus
is private label
is pri vate label and it 's e r and it 's only twenty-four per cent of the total sales
yeah
so and what you see is it does n't bring anything
yeah
th- the market is is is is minus two
yeah yeah yeah
m hm mhm mhm
so the market is down
er and it has to do with prices of course pr ivate labels are
mhm
m hm
a little bit cheaper than brands
mhm
i did n't it does n't bring anything
mhm
but yeah they are tellin g er to the trade hey er this is this is the way the only way to e r to differentiate er compared to the e r the other e r formulas and
m hm
now well everyone has its private label huh [org6] - [org6] they a ll they all go into private label
mhm
the- they all have their own private la bel range
their own private
they all have their private label range
mhm m hm m hm mhm
so bringing in a new new concept bringing in new brands
mhm
is
m hm
is getting more and mor e difficult
difficult mhm mhm mhm
again e r e spec ially when when you have let 's say o- o- one product yeah let 's say o- one very strong product
mhm
we have one of th- one st- very one very strong product that 's the [org15] lollipop
mhm
a nd e r i think the mo ment we we go to them and say okay we change the design they will automatically say okay change the design and get it into my pri- into private label and we ai n't gon na do that because
mhm
doing that means that you will kill yourself because then they will immediately e r
yeah yeah yeah yeah
screw you and e rm
mhm
but that 's that 's that 's at thi- this moment e r the situation ev eryone i- is i- into private labels
mhm
mhm
an d the brands are really suffering
m hm
re ally suffering
mhm and do you also experience that the buyers cha nge very often very re gularly
yeah
what you e specially see in the sugar confectionery area that the buyers change a lot
that 's also
but also that the sugar confectionery area is now an area where they e r er e r only only use let 's say s- starting buyers so not not really
mhm
mhm
e rm er sophisticat ed ones with a lot of knowledge
sophisticated ones
mhm
mhm
e rm and it i think it has everything to do with with the low involvement of of sugar confectionery
mhm
you know it 's e rm er when you really tal- when you talk about e rm e r bread o r whatever erm people are always very interested in in in in f- in f- in in f- real food products
mhm
you know it 's there is a real added value in there and sugar confectionery er what can you do wrong huh you know that 's a little bit the feeling
mhm
mhm
mhm mhm
m hm
so okay just place a er er wh- when you look at [org3] there 's this guy he 's called [firstname6] [lastname6] he had no experience whatsoever in sugar confectionery he came out of the the the booth e r business
mhm
and e r and he 's responsible for twenty-nine per cent of the sugar confectionery market in holland and he does n't know a thing
mhm
mhm mhm mhm
it 's unbelievable
yeah
and they just hh but okay y- you know what it is huh with the sugar confectionery when you when place a product you sell it yeah because it 's in it 's it 's still ninety per cent it 's impulse
mhm
mhm
so er there is not a real yeah added value to e r to sugar confectionery and that 's er
mhm m hm
and that 's that 's n egative that 's a downside of of e r of the or that 's a negative in- e r influence on the market because e r
mhm
yeah selling in a new concept it 's getting more and more difficult
mhm
i i had a erm a discussion e r the day before yesterday er we went to [org7] a nd e r we have this e rm fun in food concept
mhm
and we started this fun in food concept at at e rm e r at [org7] and the results were very positive yeah i think we sold in average er and it was a combination of [thing1] with some other novelty products
mhm
a fun meter
m hm
yeah the fun meter and i think we in average we sold thirty euros a week e r in sales
mhm
an d the rotations were b- betw- between four and seven a week
mhm
a nd so the result were very good and e r and i had a discussion with a buyer er the day before yesterday and er and i told him okay e r yeah we tested this er we tested this at at er ten stores and you said in the beginning okay when the r esults are very good you we would e r x
ex pand
expand to do to do the distribution to t- the one hundred stores
the distribution mhm
mhm
m hm
you are having
mhm
and then he said no no no no we ai n't gon na do that and i said why not he said b ecause the rotations are too low and i said okay wh- what do you mean er he said no i need at least rotations of all the products of six seven because they are competing with other er sugar confectionery products and then i told him no you see it totally wrong the whole thing is that this sales is additional sales
mhm
cos when you buy er when you when you look at your shopping list you you put down candy there 's not there 's not the brand name so you put down candy
mhm
when you 're in front of the shelf you buy a bag of candy and then all of a sudden you see a novelty product
mhm
m hm
and you buy that novelty product as well
mhm
you ai n't gon na make a choice between a novelty product and candy
m hm
so you will al ways buy the candy when it 's on your list and when you see the novelty
mhm
you buy that just for fun
mhm mhm mhm
mhm
okay and aut omatically the rotations will be lower yeah because you wo n't buy each day e r a a novelty product but when you sell the novelty product it 's one hundred per cent ad dit ional sales
mhm mhm
one hundred per cent additional sales when do n't place it over there you ai n't gon na sell it
mhm
you know and this guy he kept on looking at me i- i- if it 's all water burning i thought hey e r
xxx
and and and i tried to explain it a gain and at the end i think he understood the message
mhm
but he he still was er okay then e r well okay we first have to look further then you know er just e r
mhm
mhm
mhm
unbelievable this this perception on on e r still well rotations are im por tant and e r
mhm
and this meter cost money you know and er
mhm
mhm m hm
and a- and when you explain okay it 's additional
m hm
mhm
it 's one hundred per cent additional
mhm mhm
you see them think e r thinking but but at the end
mhm
m hm
no action
mhm
you know and okay now we said okay will continue
mhm
with ten new stores and we do it just by er we we just do it ourselves so we er ai n't gon na use your logistical system
mhm
we just go do do it ourselves to prove er that we are totally wro- er right and we we add ten new stores to it to e r to really come up with e r
so you place the goods there
i place the goods there yeah
you merchandise
we merchandise the goods there
the goods there
and it 's not via thei r
it 's not via their warehouse
warehouse or via their system
no
m hm
and is it just in [org7] er stores
it 's just in [org7] and we had we had a deal with [org13]
mhm
to do it at [org13] as well but then er [org13] was sold out and er and it dis appeared so e r yeah that 's a good er it was a good discussion yeah
[org13] will disappear
mhm
yeah
yeah
yeah we have good agreement yes very good agreement we 're also making a private label for [org13] and e r it 's
mhm
it 's a lot of money involved there and now they 're they dis appear so it 's e r
mhm
shit happens
m hm
but i 'm sorry i in- interrupted you when er
oh no no that 's okay
and you have some also for the the the same figures but then in value and yeah i i will give it to you for your er
aha okay
mhm
er value system or something like that but
mhm
there are that 's the same figures but then in e rm in value
mhm
mhm
at amount sales
what 's good for us is to have the the f igures per account so that we can follow each year whether the account is is growing or not so it 's just to to have
yeah
yeah you can also see the
yeah
erm
and we can also see that in the iri fig ures here you know later on
a rough mhm mhm a rough i dea m hm yeah
mhm
mhm
yeah
yeah no questions er about those papers
i will go
yeah okay you can also contact me later on
through it
later and and
yeah
good would take too much time
i think i ca n't read it i 'm
and you ca n't read it you just can look at it
yeah
o h
i 'm kidding
okay
i will sent you by email so you can make a bigger one
xx
it 's actually a good idea to make the numbers very small
to make it very small and then
mhm yeah x
yeah right
okay i agree i agree
any question no
no hm it 's clear for me
we we 're we
o h i could
even when there is a xxx
next time when they 're ask ing re ports
yeah
yeah
make it even smaller you know
i 'll do that
okay
er i will i will attend the meeting with a magnifying glass
to be prepared
xxx xx xx
we 'll say no paper please just
yeah
just bring it on on files
m hm
yeah okay then e rm on the next page e rm yeah we have e r make an estimated of our sales for this year and we think we will end up er with an er
m hm
in-market sales of e r four hundred sixty thousand euros and e r
compared to last year we have three hundred and seventy or something
i think three hun dred sixty
mhm
three hun dred seven ty
yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah i did in the business plan at least
mhm
at this moment we have er and now we have an er e r a net amount so of three hundred sixty thou sand so it 's er well
mhm
m hm
yeah even
m hm mhm
that yeah for a
more or less the same
four mo- er three month s to go and er
yeah that 's a-
just half sep tember
that 's that 's a gain the thirty per cent e r
yeah
mhm
plus com pared to last year
yeah
mhm
yeah
more or less
mhm that 's ve ry good m hm
it 's good
yeah
yeah
ve ry good
think so
yeah
then some iri figures e rm the first graph er shows you the development of [thing1] er within food er from year to year to year
mhm
and e rm yeah in the in the table you can see the the figures e r in your sales and unit sales now we started e r with selling [thing1] in two thousand five and there you can see that we e rm yeah did a good job
mhm
and e rm if you now compare s the yield date figures e r to each other you can see that there 's a negative image but e rm that 's yeah that 's because of the l- erm the loss of er [org3] e r er dis pensers
m hm
mhm
and e rm we were selling e r the dispens- in week twenty till week thirty-six er and the amount er of consumer sales was six- e r sixty-seven thousand euros sales so that 's that 's the difference between the the figures
m hm mhm
but that 's totally food so that 's e rm the this i- inclusive erm yeah the sales of [org3] e rm the second graph shows you the er also development but then only in blisters and you can see that yeah it was a good er idea to to to e rm yeah to take over all the blisters and er focus on blisters instead of standard bags
m hm
so the yellows they are the dis pensers
e r the ye llow one is the the fruit refill
ah no x
the fruit ref- ah the refill fruit and co la okay
yeah
yeah
and the blues yeah it 's the fruit and cola one and the other one is the
and blue is
the red one is the dispenser
yeah
yeah
mhm
now you can see that 's a ve ry posi tive development yeah
mhm yeah
yeah xxx
hm
clear
mhm then e rm these are here you can see last data of food figures is that e r total food
m hm
and e r you can compare last four weeks e rm of two thousand and five versus the last weeks of two thousand six which are available now
this is august ninth or which x x
twe nty-ninth
e rm which the last thing was something yeah twenty-eight was the second week of july july
okay yeah
so you can yeah so you can make a comparison
july august
mhm
now if you look at the where the rate of sales xx you can see that there 's an increase of rotation versus n- er last year and if you erm look at the distribution yeah the the difference here is that the yeah the loss of [org3] e r dispensers
mhm
but these are very general figures and yeah it 's i think it 's better to go more in detail or but they er it 's per clients there you can see erm a trend or a de velop ment
mhm
mhm
on the third line of each table you you can see the that 's the dispenser the [org1] suikerhoudend gestoken fruit peg card
seventeen gram that 's the that 's the dispen ser
mhm yes
the seventeen gram yeah
yeah
mhm
and if you com pare the
and so there is cola and fruit
yeah
a nd it 's the fifty-eight it 's the minis i guess
yeah that 's the stan dard bag with the minis yeah
m hm
mhm
and if you compare now the rotation figures e r this year for instance e r last year you can see an yeah enormous increase in er in rotation that 's erm because of the displays in food
mhm
mhm that 's true
hh and according your experience once you get a display er plac ed
m hm
will it stay there or is it just for a few months it 's it 's very
yeah
yes i i think it is just for a few months weeks
aha and then it disappear
yeah
o kay
be cause when you go to the figure of [org5] you can see that the distribution now has e r de creased and e r so we have to
mhm
e rm to go back to the stores and erm
mhm
once a gain
yeah
m hm
mhm mhm
and they inform you when they e rm put away yeah it 's just throw it away or i do n't know
no
no
no they just
mhm mhm
yeah
put it somewhere
yeah
tha-
but there are plac-
that 's al so why we said that we have to look more into especially in those stores where where it 's more sea sonal that we have to look into the carton ones because the investment in this this [thing5] is is e r extremely high
mhm
mhm
it 's xxx images it 's like in in france no
mhm
and
yeah they just put it down and and after s- six or eight weeks e r perhaps they reorder
mhm
and then after that per- after a period of sixteen weeks they kick it out and then they just throw it in the garbage or whatever
mhm it happens xxxx
mhm mhm
and that 's a waste of mo ney
yeah sure
mhm mhm
so it 's it 's far better then to use the carton ones and e rm
yeah
mhm
because when they are gone then they o kay
yeah
when they are gone okay that 's it 's made for that
mhm
throw it away m hm that 's true
yeah
yeah
m hm
so we 've received er the samples of the carton and they are now standing
ah yeah you receiv ed everything yeah mhm
yeah
yeah in our show room a nd yeah we 've passed our comment and
mhm mhm mhm m hm mhm
to go
mhm
to food stores and erm yeah er let them see the results of [org5] and
mhm
try to get a distribution of e r those cartons
mhm
mhm mhm right
but yeah that i- it 's triple the sales yeah placing it er in a week in a week 's time placing displays compared to e r sales out of shelf that 's thirteen com pared to four
yeah
so that 's e r
m hm m hm m hm and that 's really the average we have in in other countries as well
i mean it
yeah th- three times
if we if we s- yah if we sell out out of shelf compared to the to display
mhm
mhm
there you can see the the last x of [org6] e rm okay the the erm the number of shops is e r what we already told you around er three hundred and sixty an d sixty-five shops are now selling [thing1] and that 's erm also through e r wholesalers
most of them through or all of them
all
all of them i think
through wholesalers okay
[org6]
yeah
e rm what what we did here is that we went to [org6] stores ourselves
m hm
what i told you and also
mhm
we went to the wholesalers
mhm about the delivery building
and and and tell them okay we will make distribution er you can make distribution yourself and you have to do the deliveries
m hm
be cause
m hm
through head office we are not able e r to get it through
to enter mhm
a nd e r okay that resulted in er in sixty-five stores that of [org6]
mhm
e r so that 's er yeah i think that 's a good result
yeah
m hm mhm
yeah
the for e r for the first year e r doing it like this and e r
m hm
and rotations e r [org6] er the rotations are a little bit less than in e r in other stores but er l- l- between seven and eleven
mhm
okay it 's er it 's reasonably reasonable
mhm and who is doing the merchandising there the the wholesaler is doing everything
er the the the wholesalers is do- yeah the wholesalers
they are allow ed to enter the shop and and
yeah
yeah
o kay
you know these er the [org6] has three hundred and sixty stores i think fifty per cent of those stores are owned by [org11]
m hm
and the other fifty per cent i- are independent e r store owners
m hm
and so we go to the independent ones
mhm
a nd the independent store owners a re allowed to buy i think between five and ten per cent of the turnover not through [org11] organization but elsewhere a nd so e r the the [org15] this o- the that 's one of the wholesalers who actually goes to [org6] also with other products
mhm
and he also takes our products with him as well
m hm
we are now we are now having this guy called [org16] and it 's it 's an i think it 's an an er an austrian organization who 's entering the dutch market with the ir
[org16]
[org16]
[org16]
you know him
hm
maybe we can ask [firstname1] but i 've never heard it no
it 's a wholesaler and he sells all kinds of things now in supermarkets in holland i think he 's from austria
[org16]
yeah
[org16]
yeah [org16] okay
it 's [org16] o r
yeah [org16] i think
[org16]
aha [org16]
yeah but
hm
never mind
yeah
m hm
so [org15] is one wholesaler
yeah
[org15] is one wholesaler but it 's not only this the here is [org15] only mentioned but i i 've a- there 's also [org17] xx something
mhm
a nd e r there will be [org18] xx something but [org15] is the
mhm
e r the one who 's dealing the most with the because we what we also said is that we se lec ted some of the wholesalers
mhm
we wanted to work with
m hm
be cause when you do things like this
mhm
and and when you make distribution in a supermarket and you bring it to e r let 's say a more of our less e rm er well-organized er wholesaler
m hm
you will lose the business anyhow so e r you make hh
yeah hm that 's true
so we we selected the three wholesalers in the northern part of holland and erm we want to actively work with them that 's also the part of the relationship you can only do it when you say okay we work actively w - with with with a project like this
mhm
mhm
and very closely
and ve ry closely
yeah
mhm
our account manager [firstname7] [lastname7] there is er he has a good relationship there with e r
mhm
those guys and also it 's not only the it 's not only er the [thing1] displays he is s- selling because he also we we you know we also have this this general rack e r where [thing1] is part of you know it 'll also also [thing7] products involved as well
m hm
mhm
mhm
and he e r he made the same deal with e r with [org15] the with their one on e sales rep of [org15] that he could actually sell in those general racks at [org6] as well so er i think
m hm
the sixty-five shops it 's not only the [thing1] rack but that 's al so some of them will have the general rack
mhm
m hm mhm m hm mhm
so
mhm very good
we have to do a lot of e r erm teaching e r teach the trade that novelties can actually sell and that 's e r we have to change the the perception of the the buyers that e r
m hm
that it 's not only sugar confectionery which we have to sell out of that er out of the store but that you can sell novelties also
mhm mhm
then e rm yeah the very good re sults of [org5] and e rm yeah you can see the enormous e r increase of sales in er euro sales
m hm
and e rm and you can also see that the rotation is yeah very high twenty-nine week seven seventy-one a week er fifty-eight a week thirty-one a week that 's
[org5] is a real family store
mhm
pure
yeah
and that 's that 's also what you see on the results
m hm
e r er rotations of er sixty er between sixty and forty a week that 's that 's hi gh
that 's very high
very high
mhm
yeah
mhm and do you have an idea e r in how many shops [thing1] is in
in forty i think
forty
yeah
the number of shops of [org5] is four hundred and sixty and erm
mhm
the distribution at this moment is ten nine
ten per cent
yeah
and this is di rect de livery
no
or
also through a whole saler
also through a wholesaler
yeah
okay
but of course we use these figures
yeah
to the buyer
yeah
explaining okay when you do n't wan na have it in the confectionery shelf in a way it 's fine with me but then at least place one display
yeah yeah yeah mhm
and try it during the season place a display with er two hundred skus in it and you will sell it in e r in four weeks ' time
mhm
mhm mhm
mhm
so and er and that 's additional sales so of cour- we er that 's the good thing about market figures and iri figures
yeah yeah yeah to have the proof
yeah yeah
to have the yeah
m hm
have the proof and e r that it is that it can be sold successfully
mhm mhm mhm
mhm
an d with these results well go to the other food shops and e r and also candy er f- toy stores erm yeah to get e r other displayses there
mhm
and and do you have any idea what or how [thing8] is doing perfo- or performing
[thing8] has a ve ry poor per form ance
yeah
m hm
they e rm
still er still declining or
yeah enormously he er i 've got the hhh this is a part of my business review
m hm
this is iri figures as well but this is [thing8] and they had seven point three per cent market share
market share
and they are now on five point six
o h
m hm
and the next periods are getting worse and worse and worse so they are really e r going down and e r this is our [thing7] brand
m hm
when we started one point three two point one so there 's a nice growth and
m hm
m hm [org20] is doing quite good huh mhm
private label is big part
yeah
very similar to the uk in the uk you have more than thirty per cent
are you cold
and every big chain has their own pri vate label
no no
mhm
thank you
section as well so
it 's o kay maybe in on the back side
yeah
yeah
you know with private labels all the products which are er let 's say commodity and that 's wine gums what we talked about yes terday
yeah
yeah
it 's commodity and why why will you bring it why should you bring it under a private l- of under un der a brand
mhm
mhm
when you can also bring it in in a private label
mhm m hm mhm
or use [org20] because it 's al so e r value for money er priced
mhm
mhm mhm m hm
but e r yeah okay erm a- all the retailers selling [org20] y- you you they all want to be different than others so they they only erm they think that the only way to be different is use private labels yeah put their own br- their own name on it er and er hh yeah o kay e r
mhm mhm mhm mhm
it 's real threat for brands
but the price war in the in the uk for example is incredible because e r i just recently did some store checks and i saw main ly that the gums and jellies are buy one get one free i mean nobody nobody earns money any more
mhm
you know or just take three out of your choice for one pound so it 's incredible and and ev ery shelf was fully packed with with a in credible
yeah
price quotation
this e r in in in england e r the the market is real ly under pressure
m hm
e specially after the n- let 's say the nor mal sugar confectionery product and it has a lot to do with the obesitas discussion
m hm
yeah an d also the government now is really involved of of highly involved in e r in er in in getting out the i think they even
mhm
will start with stamps on the products saying okay this is a bad product this is a little bit better and this is be- you know with coloring
mhm
mhm
so communication towards the consumer on how many calories are there in this this packaging
mhm
yeah
mhm mhm
a nd erm i know that we er that our organization is now entering with a whole new wellness er range
m hm
so let 's say sugar-reduced products products with thirty-five per cent less sugar
mhm
mhm
a nd add vitamins to it or add calcium to it or what ever so
mhm
mhm
yeah the the taste of the product must be okay
mhm
e r re duce a little bit of sugar so that we that the the the calorie contained will will
m hm
be lower
will yeah
and we add vitamins or we add whatever
m hm
so to make e r sugar con fectionery a little bit more healthy it will ne ver be healthy
to make it a bit
more h-
healthier
mhm yeah yeah yeah right right
yeah but er it 's l- l- l- less e rm er less unheal thy
that 's nasty
mhm mhm
but the obesity issue is is not that big in your country is n't it
yeah it 's starting
yeah
it 's starting it 's real starting an d er you also of of er sugar e r sugar-free and sugarless products entering the dutch market an d the the government is is e r there is a lot of publicity a- among st e r obesitas as well in holland
mhm
mhm m hm mhm
and e rm it 's sort of in in england they try to keep the volume on a high level by making e r it one plus one activities
mhm
and e rm
right
that 's the the only reason why they do it
mhm
but in holland we we see also a lot of e r e r pub- publications on obesitas and one one e rm
mhm
one out of the four children is already too too heavy and i think o kay w- w- we as as
mhm
mhm
we as industry we know that it has nothing to do with with eating candies because in holland we alrea- we are i think at least the last five years on an average er candy intake of six kilos a year
mhm
six point two there is no increase in it
mhm
so it 's six point two al ready for ten years
mhm
mhm mhm
and children are getting thicker and thicker and that has nothing to do with the with the calorie intake
no no no that 's
in sugar confectionery it has everything to do with movement
yeah yeah
yeah
m hm
they do n't play they do n't sport any more they do n't play any more they sit behind their the desk behind the com puter
yeah
yeah
play any more right
mhm
hm
yeah
in front of the compu ter mhm
and e r and playing games
mhm right mhm
instead of going out and e r an- and play soccer and e r you know and and that 's that 's the m- they do n't burn the calories any more
mhm
mhm mhm mhm
mhm
right mhm
and the whole nutrition not not only the the can dies it 's
yeah
it 's not on ly the it 's er but okay now you know
mhm
what they eat the whole day
f- five years ago or ten years ago the government said okay smoking is a bad habit so e r everything what had to do with smoking had to kick- be kicked out of the country no advertising
mhm
e r and now it 's e r now it 's that now it 's and then it was er alcohol
mhm
yeah
and now it 's sugar confectionery
mhm
m hm
so each time they take another se- anothe r category
mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm in a few years it it 'll it will switch to
in a few years
smoking a gain
yeah it will switch to smoking again o r t- to driving yeah stop driving cars and e r
yeah yeah yeah
mhm
take public transportation or whatever they they will find out some thing
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
and erm
mhm mhm
we 'll see
there are so many er programs on tv er how we can er lose weight and
yeah yeah
mhm
that 's also very popular now
m hm
b- because it 's a big problem er
mhm
mhm m hm
yeah
yeah
and for the for the sugar- free candies it 's then tooth-friendly logo is this e rm
hh yeah
has this an important issue in in holland
no not no b- the the the that it 's su- i i and that 'll sugar-free is still not important a nd the feedback and that 's also story y- you know wha- what we are doing on the [thing7] is also go more natural try to get
yeah
sugar- re duced pro ducts and also add vitamins to it
na-
m hm
yeah
yeah
yeah
a nd but sugar-free the disadvantage and that 's a- the in the perception of the buyer as well e r n inety per cent of the sugar-free products are not that tasty
yeah right
so when you take a wine gum
mhm
yeah
e r just a normal wine gum
mhm
and you compare that with a su gar -free wine gum
yeah
mhm
the sugar-free that 's always a n- a next taste it 's you know an after taste which is awful
mhm
mhm
mhm mhm
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah mhm
a nd and that 's also what the buyers think and that 's a lso the feedback you 're getting from consumers
mhm
m hm
that 's right
so and e r
mhm
so the thing is now that people are trying to develop sugar-free candies which actually do taste
m hm
but that 's s- s- still very difficult
mhm
and e rm
mhm
we have an we have n- we now have an e r an er marshmallow a sugar-free marshmallow e r and you ca n't taste the difference between the sugar-free one and the su gar-containing one
mhm
erm but it 's expensive it 's very expensive
right
there is a
mh m
price difference
it yeah i- it it 's there 's p- price difference of for ty per cent
yeah yeah yeah
wow
wow
mhm yeah due to the in gre dients of course mhm
you know and then and then you have this consumer price and norma lly you buy a bag of marshmallows this big
mhm
yeah
yeah
for one and a half euros
right
and now we will try to sell a bag of hundred and fifty grams for one and a half euros you know and and that 's
mhm
m hm
mhm
mhm mhm
hh and there is and then the qu- the big question mark is is is the consumer willing
willin g to pay for it
mhm
to pay for it
right right right
and e r
maybe a special group but
hh there is also a s- there is aw- there is always a special group who is willing to do that
yeah but
on the other hand we also say eating candy everyone knows that eating candy is is e r m tha- that it gives calories
calorie
mhm
mhm
and e veryone knows that eating candy is not good for your he- for your life or for your for your health as long as you e r
do n't o-
you ca- you can eat candy today
mhm
mhm
and then okay do n't eat candy tomorrow go sporting and and it 's and it 's fine
mhm yeah that 's
yeah mhm
and everyone knows that and people actually e r it 's still my belief that then that people buy a bag of candy they eat it because they like at that moment and they just fo- they they think
mhm
for get about the rest
forget about the rest
mhm yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
come on e r and knowing that then when you when you go in that that thinking e r you when you entered in a market you you can bring a sugar- -less product or a sugar- or a sugar-free o r whatever
mhm
e rm
or sugar -reduced
but do n't put too much e r e r communication am- amongst there just tell them that it is a good product
mhm
mhm
and that it 's of high taste and that you do n't see the difference between er the sugar-contai ning one and the sugar-free one
mhm
mhm mhm mhm
mhm
e r and it 's oh it 's nice to have it it 's also sugar- free
m hm
you know e r so you can e r
right right right mhm
have the enjoyment of of of the of sugar confectionery
yeah
yeah
and you do n't have the disadvantage of the calo ries
of the calo ries yeah
mhm mhm
and that 's but that 's not the main task of the m- the main rea son for buying candy is t- is is people know that it 's not good for your your health but they just like it
mhm mhm mhm
just to eat it
it 's just a a treatment for your for your self
yeah
that 's it
okay today i treat myself and to morrow i will go out and sport
yeah
mhm
yeah right mhm right mhm
yeah
mhm
then the iri figures of [org4]
m hm
and e rm valid since
good
yeah what you can see here is the rotation is er er much better than last year
mhm
and erm this is e r also due that we have advised them to to give er [thing1] more space in the shelves and here you can see it yeah that the ro tation will er
mhm
increase d
and [org4] you deliver direct or or
what we did there we
yeah
yeah
okay
that 's a mem ber of [org8]
yeah yeah
we also we deliver them our he- er [thing7] products
okay
also directly and what we
it 's a member of [org8] as well aha okay
yeah
yeah
and what we told them is you ha- er you have to reduce
mhm
mhm
the number of skus and also the space you 're giving to [thing7]
mhm
it 's better to give [thing1] more space so we reduced our own brand the space of our own brand to give [thing1] more space
really
mhm
and it has it had everything to do also with e r with with the ca- with the fun in food
m hm
e r p- project cos when we made the calculation on when you have a presentation of four meters of header cards
m hm
yeah [thing8] or [thing7]
mhm
where you have place of four meters you 're you talk about for ty skus
mhm
and forty products
mhm
when you compare that to the average rotation e r the average store has a has a e r stock level of six weeks
m hm
yeah between six and eight weeks
mhm mhm
and from a from a e rm
at least a carton per per product
yeah so and and from a from from a margin point of view it 's it 's it 's a wrong investment
yeah yeah
yeah
mhm
so we said it 's better
mhm
not to place er too many products in the store and al so just make one facing of a pro duct and not two facings because you do n't need it
mhm
mhm
mhm
mhm
from a from a stock point of view
mhm
m hm mhm
and it 's it 's better for your margin e r and it gives you room to get more products in
mhm mhm
and e r and at [org4] it it works so e r
mhm
yeah
yeah
little bit lost now on the numbers on e r how many stores people are getting but they i know they get more stores
mhm
mhm mhm
every day it 's different
yeah
yeah
but i think these are er also good figures er
mhm
sales er out of shelves
a petrol station
yeah petrol sta tions
wow
yeah and if you compare the er you have date figures e rm from this year to last year
mhm
you can see enormous growth and it has all to do with er our sales force because s- they yeah maybe continues focus e r on distribution and selling of [thing1] there
mhm
mhm
mhm
place displays in e r in the petrol stations erm now i 've tried to make a clear picture but er i think failed in this because it 's very f- a fluctu ating picture and you can see the first one is e r two thousand five er week twenty-nine till week
er fifty-one and there you can see that erm yeah that the distribution was er s- sometimes it was okay sometimes it was extremely yeah
mhm
it was not not that good and e rm if you e r now look to the erm e r the figure of two thousand six you can see it 's more
quite stable mhm
yeah it 's more stable and erm the distribution is e r erm better than in two thousand five and the rotation yeah it 's that 's on on yeah leave it on the same level but i think the rotation e r could be much higher and i think for next year we have to make some plans to yeah to do some er promotions in the shops to er to get more er
mhm
to get the rotation higher
mhm and this is [org21] and [org20] or or
[org19] e r petrol stations
okay
how many how many outlets are this in average
e rm i do n't know exactly
how many what
outlets
outlets or stores
s- to tal
ooph in holland i think two and a half thousand petrol station s er ooph seven he- hundred or eight hundred are company-owned e r company-operated so
stations
yeah
a ha
e r we are not allowed to go in there
mhm
a nd the rest is independent but within these ind- independent er petrol stations you also have a lot of petrol stations who er hardly sell any e r sugar confectionery any more or even quit selling sugar con fection ery what you see in holland it 's er
mhm
it 's [org23] and also other companies they just close their their e rm facility on on selling candies and other stuff and they s- they still keep the petrol ar- er the the they still sell the petrol but only with credit cards
mhm
mhm
you know so there 's still a petrol station but there 's no sales any more and that 's that 's also a trend what er what we see
o kay
mhm okay
mhm
m hm
so erm but the thing what what we what we did comp- er what we changed compared to last year last year we had a lot of activities to wholesalers and also with our sales force but erm we e r did not had that much e r focus on on presentation and now we said okay presentation is crucial
mhm
m hm
m hm
so er bring in racks bring in er the the four pin er the pin e r displays
shelf displays
mhm
and e rm er and also m- c- try to get distribution through head offices on e r on e r petrol
yeah
fun in petrol e r concept which e r is also er working well
yeah for [org21] and [org19]
yeah
mhm
yeah we have place in the fun meter
yeah you know it 's it ha- er it has everything to do with er with the put your product in danger of being sold thing
and that 's e r
mhm
yeah
mhm
e r now here you can see in erm in global overview of the activities er for this year which we have done here and e rm first of all the assortment which er kind of licences we had er during the time
mhm
m hm
e rm yeah the the new t- er top sign e r the scratch and win promotion and
m hm
erm the introduction of the the cola e rm refill and er you can also see the have a continuous focus of our sales force e rm yeah on [thing1] and e rm yeah many times you will place some press releases in trade force
mhm
to get more attention to [thing1] for the
mhm
mhm
for the buyers
so you will you will repeat the scratch and win pro mo tion in
yeah
yeah
september
autumn this year
yeah
at this mo ment
so you sta- yeah
m hm
yeah week forty yeah yeah
started already in sept ember yeah mhm
we are now pack ing
with an alarm bell
mhm
yeah right
a h
you can see it here
mhm
because it 's a it 's a nice e rm er
m hm it 's quite nice a nice nice gift yeah
mhm
yeah
promotion item
yeah and all the other things they e r they sell the
mhm
mhm
the blech schilder or
from
yeah
m hm
the what
erm in holland yeah
blech schilder
the blech-
oh the old e r retro e r schild okay
yeah
yeah retro designs yeah
yeah right mhm mhm
yeah there 's many er nice things the and they do it only for you or i mean x xx yeah
no no no
that 's e r they have many many different kind of of licences
okay er yeah
and
so i 've now this er banduhr
but they obvi ously like it m hm mhm
mhm
yeah
yeah this are also very popular items i think
mhm
mhm
yeah
and everybody is happy when you erm
yeah yeah
when somebody gets a present like this one
yeah but they 'll work at more in detail after this er scra tch and win promotion
mhm
mhm
so cola was just introduced in january
yeah
mhm
yeah to get everything more focused on the blisters instead of standard bags
mhm
which is the same period
yeah [S3] told us that i- it was a great taste so we had to do that
a h
and she knows it
i was fully against it but e r
i i just give advices
yeah i was fully against it but they are you know
the the ball is in your corner
so it 's really it 's a big difference
yeah
and the fruit one is the most po- popu lar in ev ery e r country i think yeah
fruit yeah fruit yeah mhm
yeah
hm
de finitely m hm
yeah well the first scratch and win promotion e r where people can e r could er win a race car
mhm
e rm na- yeah it it was a good way to get more distributions e r in shops and e rm the result was that we have sold nineteen e r half-round displays and er hundred and sixty er round displays
m hm
so that was a good er yeah there was good re sults and the introduction of the new top sign er you know it already
and e rm
m hm
er i think it 's better for us because it 's er yeah more sma ller and communi cates better the yeah
mhm
mhm
mhm
mhm
what [thing1] is e rm the [org5] e rm yeah we 've alr- alr- already seen the the good re sults in iri
mhm
m hm
and the displays i think we yeah have to go back to them again and erm
mhm
place the carton e r displays and the [org21] fun meter e rm no and the fun meter c- er implemented in twenty-five stations
mhm
a nd at this moment they have chicken little and they will change now into e r to e r cars yeah
cars
mhm
you can see a picture where we are now so we al- already have er spoken about the vortest fun in food and er now here y- you can see also a pic ture of er how [thing1] is placed e r
mhm
er in shelves with all the other e r novelty products and e rm yeah xxxxx at this moment seven items of [org1] e r a week
but that 's just dispensers no no refills
no they i- in the nice thing is that they n- they e r went to er some stores to the store er managers asking them er asking the store owner e r can you also tell me where i can find the refills
mhm
a nd we immediately took this up and brought that to the buyer of [org7] and said hey i think you have to take in the the refills as well because
mhm
mhm
mhm
mhm
people are asking for it
yeah
asking for it mhm
so e rm
mhm
so the next step is to bring in the the refill and i think this will be done next week or the week after and e rm
okay
m hm
you did n't know that then
i didn- no i did n't actually
s- ye ah that was new
xx xx
yeah yeah true yeah
you have to come to aus tria to
for
yeah
to get some news
o h
you have more news for me or
n- perhaps i do n't know
o h okay
yeah the sales force e rm yeah this is very er they do a very big job and erm yeah they p- they place many e r displays of [thing1] and er also the other products of course
mhm
and you can see some figures e r and yeah the buil- they built up a good relationship now with all the er buyers so er
a mini-
mhm
the mini-bag
yeah a refill is it only for our country i thought
yep
mhm
yeah yeah
very strange product
you 're you 're you are the exception of the exception
yeah
mhm
the dutch are different you know
always
you knew that
you knew that up front [S3]
yeah right
don- do n't blame us afterwards
no
yeah yeah
i was always very honest a bout that
yeah right
and [org19] also a petrol station e rm
xx
but i had a little hope you know right
the
yeah forget it
forget it
when i look in the mirror sometimes i 've hope and then i forget it
yeah right forget it okay
[org19] 's hun- e r hundred and fifty stations er petrol stations and e rm we 've also implemented er there an er yeah the fun meter
mhm
with [thing1] in it
m hm
and e rm some stations e rm are selling heffalump and and the bigger stations are selling heffalump and chicken little and and there will also a switch er er from chicken little to cars yeah
to cars
mhm
yeah then [org24] er dealers e rm yeah they had er created a big campaign sorry but i think that 's my phone
and d- d- do you know the rsp at xx
e r i thought one point two n ine if i 'm not wrong but i can check it for you if you want
mhm
mhm and they have got the blisters am i right
yeah
mhm
okay ich glaube eben darum weil xx is ja erm
yeah they have so ma ny things
is
is more or less the cheapest
mhm
er
yeah
account m hm
yeah
their shops were fully e rm full of cars items they were selling many cars xxx xx full of er
mhm
mhm
of the consumer e r
mhm
falls also in yeah in style of e r cars xx
mhm mhm
they had many e r products of that so er
hm
licency
mhm
e rm [org25] that 's a holiday park
mhm
yeah you can rent there a house er on a big fam ily park i do n't know if you er know [org25] but er it 's yeah you can rent a house there m- with your family and there 's swimming pool and a tennis court and a
mhm
hh a minigolf and
mhm
bowling center et cetera and er now they 'll e rm will start with selling [thing1] near the e r checkouts near the xx
m hm mhm
yeah the bi- the big displays and e r
so they will start or
yeah they will start
they will be placed next week i think
yeah
we
we
we were waiting on stock of
er m
best of [org2]
best of [org2] yeah
yeah
there yeah there was one item of best of [org2]
m hm
m hm
there was one item missing i think
e r f- from the cha racters
due to to
yeah there 's one item er which is er
yeah from the characters
yeah
so otherwise it would be implemented already but we are waiting on er on one product
it 's that
m hm
yeah
m hm mhm
mhm
then the plan er for the rest of this this year erm the scratch and win promotion for e r also for our week forty we will start with delivering them and erm yeah it 's er test segment construction erm and now we have created total package with the the shelf display in it and four cartons of e r different er licency of er
mhm
[org1] characters er one carton of refills e rm yeah ninety-six scratch and win cards as you can see here and er yeah the biggest prize you can win is the alarm clock of [org1] and er the other prize are the [thing1] dispensers er the standard bags of sponge bob
mhm
refills are the eight-packs or this
yeah
m hm
yeah with er the eight-packs
mhm
yeah for the shelf display
mhm
so they can hang it up
yeah yeah mhm
and i think we will sell er five hundred er er package of this one because er yeah we have made a forecast and the clients are very xx about
of the scratch and win
yeah of the of the package e r of scratch and win yeah
xx
of the mhm
m hm
then the big surprise
mhm
xx
i will do
yeah
this is a handmade sample
mhm
because the e r er s- the dutch well were xx our warehouse er i think this week
m hm
and e r yeah that 's a seasonal product and e r it e rm yeah it con- contains [thing1] dispenser you can see and also a re fill
mhm
mhm
mhm
mhm
x xx
who who is doing the packaging for you
we we do it ours- e r w- we have co-packers who do it
you yourselves
yeah yeah o kay
yeah
mhm
met [thing1]
yeah
ve ry nice
and it 's a success because it 's the first year and e r
mhm
as you can here it was so er
mhm
er more twenty-six thousands er consumer units e r of this bag so
very nice
yeah
and what 's the the consumer price for it
e r two poin t sixty-n ine
that 's nice very nice
[S3] can i take another coffee e r
yeah
yes of course sorry sorry
yeah
no no no no problem
would you like to have another tea
e r no thank you
no
have you have you have you ever eaten e r strooigoed
stroo-
is is it f-
pepernoten
is it fresh yeah that is fresh is n't it
yeah
yeah it 's fresh yeah
yeah
can i open it
yeah sure
if you can
it 's ha-
yeah it 's handmade
it 's a handmade sample e r
seams
yeah
so you can open it
but you seamed the foil you know
yeah
yeah by our selves
xx yeah
using it with the
yeah
xxx
oh yeah we 've an- another bag there and e r
yeah but it 's empty
yeah i know but but for er for e r
yeah
o- yeah okay for more of the
xx xx xx x
right
good quality foil
yeah
yeah it is
so that 's a combination of candy
mhm
yeah so e r with compressed candy an d all kinds of candy
mhm
a nd and gingerbread
mhm
that 's the ginger- oder that are these
that 's the gin ger bread
yeah
that 's gingerbread
that 's j ust
that 's choco late
plain chocolate
yeah that 's yeah
yeah
xxxx is very good though but i think it 's a chocolate
hm nice
nicht gut
ja
ist gut
it 's kind of s- sp- speculaas
speculaa-
or is it or how do you call that 's an an
e rm
ach so ja e rm m hm
like the cookies
we have the cookies yeah yeah
there are at christmas
mhm yeah
like the coo kies
yeah
yeah the same
peppermint
and all the faces are black for your x
yeah there 's on- there 's there 's one guy
i want ed to ask her
which is actually white that 's santa claus
that 's unfair
san ta claus yeah
chil dren
a nd the other ones are er painted black
a h yeah
yeah but this is er
that 's santa claus
yeah and this is
and then we have black pete that 's the guy e r
ach ja that 's black pete
yeah
genau mhm
but when you undress them the the f- the the shape is exactly the same but
mhm
yeah yeah yeah mhm
when you take off the the foils er
so we use also them for er for er the the christmas er figures
m hm
m hm
yeah that 's exactly the same chocolate
and for easter bunny
and for easter bunnies as well
mhm
ach ja das ist ein dicht piet dicht
dicht piet
dicht piet
it e r there is er during this e r period of er of the fifth of december there is the the whole idea is santa claus comes into the country
mhm
and it gives presents to children a nd e r but before the fifth of december he is already in the country
dicht piet
mhm
and he throws er gifts through the chimneys of the houses
mhm
so small children
to the stockings
mhm
can can put their
socks
their shoe s
yeah
in front of the chimney but nobo dy has a chimney an- any more in in holland but okay er
under the chimney
mhm
why bother
then they have a key
e r sh- yeah and santa claus has a key
a key
and then e rm
er and
just recent ly
so this this these are products
yeah
who actually er do fit into the the the shoe
mhm
er on the other hand
mhm
that 's true yeah
er dicht piet means
yeah
e r th- that 's also on the fifth of january you er you get a lot of presents a nd er and some of the
in december
on the fifth
fifth of december xxx
of december
on the fifth of december you get a lot of pro duct er presents
okay
hm
mhm
a nd e r a lot of people
xxx
xxx
add to the present a small e r poem
a limerick or
a limerick so something about the guy who gets the products and wha- what 's the use of the product and als- alw- always in rhyme
m hm
mhm
and rhy ming is the same as dichten so
oh
o kay
and and and and dicht
dicht en und dichten
dicht en ja
dicht
an d er
we have the same word
an d so we said o kay e r the the dicht piet
dichten
hm yeah
mhm
is the is the guy
piet is peter
who m- or actually makes all the the the po ems
piet is the the black piet
the
yeah
the po ems m hm
who m- who makes the
piet yeah
it 's peter
that 's the name the name of e r this guy
yeah yeah
so this yeah so we we we more or less inven ted that there 's one black piet
der dichtende piet
yeah
mhm
a ha
who actually makes all the the
mhm
m hm
the poems
yeah
mhm
the poems
m hm
and that 's no and tha- tha- that 's why we put in a letter because this is the letter s so you can m- so that 's
m hm
so there 's
find out
that 's the con- that 's the connection to the dicht e r piet so the
diff-
ach so
m hm
and you have different letters in the in no in just
one letter
no
there are in holland er of course all the letters of the the alphabet are there but you you ca n't arrange that
mhm
mhm
because e r so we said we take the s
yeah
of of x and that 's it
mhm
a nd e r yeah so it 's a good combination of all kinds of nice things and e r
mhm
yeah
and you do this for the for the very first time this year or
yeah
this is the first time
yeah
it 's
it 's m hm
it ha- had with we we already did a lot of [org26] products we [org26] - [org26] is one of our seasonal brands a nd e r and we are always constantly looking for for a new creative added value concepts a nd so we came up now with e r with dicht piet and we also had another one
mhm
e rm surprise piet
yeah
a n d we we came up with four new
m hm mhm
four new concepts and we went to the trade an d they selected two the surprise piet and the dicht piet and the others we still have erm
okay
avail able but erm
mhm mhm and this is your own brand or
yeah
okay
yeah
[org26] or [org26] or what
[org26]
[org26]
[org26]
yeah we will change that e r this year also because i do n't like the coloring of er the [org26] logo it 's e r it 's a little bi- it 's it 's a little bit cheap
and does stand f- stand for any thing
yeah no
okay
no
entschuldigung
bitte m hm nice m hm
yeah
yeah
very nice
and yeah with seasonal products it 's always a problem to get new seasonal products in because what the trade normally does is they l- they look at what did we did last year
xx i know from my childhood
mhm yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
and we do ex actly the same this year
yeah
yeah yeah yeah and that 's it
and that 's it an d they do n't take the time to really look at new concepts so e r okay when you start up a new concept and you sell nearly thirty thousand bags m- yeah as a start
it 's a good sig nal
m hm
it 's it 's a good signal
mhm
mhm
m hm
yeah
mhm
and it 's i think that 's good for [org1] yeah because you comm uni cate the the dis pen sers also in er in other stores and e r in an another way
xx
quite nice yeah
yeah
mhm mhm m hm mhm
okay e rm huh
yeah
here you have some cards with the new scratch and win promotion
ah
scratch and win yeah
er they are not the winnings cards hopefully i hope
hopefully yeah
xxx xx
hopefully
it 's a pity for you but you do n't have
otherw-
otherwise you have to ship the the oth erwise you have to ship the
mhm
any price
yeah right
the alarm bell
the alarm clock e r
yeah
the next time when they come
please give me my
this is not a guilty one
gift
my prize
xxx
no
e rm now we of course e r what i already told you they continue focus of our sales force and they er also will erm sell the m yeah the scratch and win e r package erm yeah
mhm
to the clients
mhm
and maybe we can implement a internet site er with a link to xx this year but i i do n't know what the status i think it 's news xx
the st-
the status is yes that e rm our whole [org1] web site is more or le- more or less er re built and e r
mhm
redid
there are actually three offers er given to agencies and our marketing director is still waiting for the results and but it will be a completely new
i know yeah
yeah
yeah
er website and then e r the countries will have special links as well so that we
okay
special placement for the for the coun tries that there 's a direct link but
yeah
okay
i mean the- they will do it or do we have to e r
erm
er that 's not not er ooph
create all that
yeah we can discuss about this
as soon as the as the whole page more or less is is done rebuilt everything then er i will contact you and
o kay
we will know how it
yeah
how it will be planned but it will be more active more er for kids it
yeah
yeah
i think it will be divided into parts especially erm targets kids then the more the grown-ups
mhm
er where you can find [org1] the distribution partners but more more active
mhm
than it was to- wha- and than it is now
yeah
yeah i think it 's nice to to to al- to put also game er [org1] game or something like that er
mhm
yeah
on the internet site
mhm
mhm mhm
and there we can also er
be cause some some of our distribution partners ask already
mhm yeah
cos when just go on [org1] that you have the direct link o kay how what 's what 's happening in my country
yeah
yeah
yeah
mhm
at this moment it 's not of the xxx
bec-
and even von the language because
yeah
you ca n't translate everything in all languages so
no
yeah great
therefore it 's but i will update you on this
yeah
that 's okay
it 's getting more and more important medium huh
m hm
yeah sure
in ternet
and even the kids they they have access
yeah
and mhm
mhm
mhm
espe cially the kids yeah
mhm
and next year we celebrate eighty years maybe you know it already
no
eight- eighty years hh and due to this event we refurbish more or less our website
o kay
and e r we also have a kind of concept er for our eightieth anniversary for next years which will presented
okay
and this is
during the ism
and a haeh
during the ism
during the ism dədədə dʌ:
yeah
and there 's a special er eighty anniversary logo
which will then be on every packaging on every on every pic- e- every blister
on every packaging
o kay
o kay
and mhm
oh that 's good
yeah
cos it gives something on on value and quality
right right
there will be inter national prize-winning game and
if you already exist for eighty years you must be good
mhm
yeah yeah right
okay yeah
yeah and you 're still alive
and you 're no that when you 're eigh ty and you 're still alive it 's e r yeah
that yeah right yeah yeah right and you still breathe you 're right right mhm mhm mhm
yeah you
you 've done things
in in a good way so
and the whole con sumers can go to the international website and they can
right
right
join the game or
yes it will be a cooperation with mickey mouse
yeah
hm competition or
some
oh
prizes
yeah
mhm
some nice prizes e r were given by [org27] as well
yeah
o kay
that 's nice
mhm
trip to er [place1] something like that
m hm
yeah
[place2] at least
or [place2] yeah xxx
something like this mhm m hm
yeah
but it 's yeah i think at ism
mhm
it 's the
and we also get a f- a f- a few dispensers in the old shape of the mickey mou- mouse for example
some time to present it
mhm
which could be a good present for for your e r clients or for your buyers
okay
e rm just to make them aware that er [org1] celebrate eighty years and so on so
okay
e rm our marketing director is very deep into this project and and er we are right now collecting everything e r all this international e rm campaign which we are planning winning campaign so and we just wait for the green light from [org27] and so on and so on so it 's really stuck
mhm
okay
right in into the middle of the project
hm
okay great
mhm hast du etwas zum herzeigen
the the logo yeah which is on the
mhm
on the new shrek blister card
it 's a bad thing that you took that one
yeah
cos now i started to eat it
hm sorry that 's your own responsibility
m hm xxxxx
do n't take the chocolate
n o
i will give it to you
no
here you can see this
just a moment
i con
oh yeah here we are
it 's the
eighty years
o kay
yeah
celebration l- and and we also will have a e rm let 's [org1] com website
it will be the new site yeah
mhm
the new site
the new email address actually
mhm and on this website we will celebrate e r the the winning promotion
o kay is it al ready existing is it already in the air the the
which which we do
n o no no no no no so we 're we 're right really
no
no
it 's under con struction
yeah right
because if then when the new concept of the website is is more or less e r decided and everything is finished then it will change to the new
yeah
address as well
and all the packagings will change f- er only for this year
right right for one year
a special yeah
right
design er
i think with meet the robinsons will be the first
yeah we will start with meet the robinsons with with e r
because it 's the first
this this new one
yeah
this will be shrek shrek three m hm
shrek okay okay
if we get the licence it 's still not
yeah mhm it 's a nice logo it 's it 's with er link to the re- re tro retro
yes it is
yeah
it 's it
re tro yes yes yes mhm mhm
yeah
retro yeah
a little bit nostalgic
yeah
yeah
it 's the cap from from
from from from our lady
the [org1] lady
yeah
that 's quite nice
traubenzucker
yeah that 's nice so there will be an exciting year
m hm
next year that 's you r holiday picture or
last year
yeah
that 's australia yeah
fruitful surroundings yeah
yeah lot of water
er what do you think about next year e rm we think that our e r our two most important things er we have to focus on and that 's the focus on distribution and dominance in shops
m hm
and e r also increase the rotation er by reaching the consumer er with erm yeah activities on the on the floor or erm yeah like activities on yeah
and these things x displays instead of the floor displays
yeah
xx
yeah
m hm
and we think that er with with this focus er we 'll get more er distribution more sales for next year
yeah and we are much more flexible because er er you d- you do n't have do to anything you you you just
no because the
uncover it
yeah
and
mhm
and it 's
yeah
do n't have to fill it
yeah yeah
no
you have the crowner
mhm
yeah
mhm
from the
yeah
for the special
m hm
erm
yeah
hit the stor e to e r
xxx
no work to place it
no
in comparison to
to the others
you are right yeah to the others
to the x display
right mhm
and less expensive
and less expensive
okay how how do we think we can focus on distribution and dominance e r now what have already spo- er it is the switch from the stan dard bag to the stan dard blister
mhm
mhm
sure
mhm
when you you got the so that 's just the non-branded er packaging
mhm
and it 's the product but you received a sample so you so you know
yeah i 've received samp les yeah yeah
yeah
yeah we saw it we saw it already during our last conversation e r when you came over to er to holl and
that 's an
mhm
right
right
mhm
you had one or two er of these products
mhm no this year we started with france
standing
in april an d er from the beginning of next year we will spread e r to all our other partners
yeah
from the timing it 's actually
depends on you
it 's it 's up to you yeah
o kay
o kay
but i think yeah
it is you you can check it you can even er let us know if you would like to have the same er bar code you currently have for the stan dard bags
mhm
yeah
and everything else erm
okay and i will come back to visit you because i 've to e r
mhm
xxx which clients er do now the
mhm mhm
and i think it 's m- m- most easy to start with this then in the first of january
yeah
we can now inform our customers
mhm
yeah
and then e r make the switch with our local xx
mhm mhm
this issue but it 's it 's a nice packaging it 's
m hm
m hm
m hm
ve ry clear and very e r
mhm
yeah
and very good visibility
xx and from the
yeah yeah
m hm
from the space it 's as well
yeah
and and the dispenser can not move and fall so you always
yeah
see them from the side
yeah
mhm plan
e rm yes how we ho w can we increase rotation e rm now we think there are different er possibilities e rm yeah we were already working on the internet site i think that 's
mhm
very important to do and e rm yeah you can
mhm
do so many things er with internet and e r and we can also er er make a cooperation of a link with popular sites in holland and create games and e rm yeah e rm what we will do that also with er [thing7] and e rm yeah are ge- we will get a total package deal there with yeah you you will get a a grps for that and you c- you we will get an er er a [thing7] game and we will get erm all those kind of things and er yeah we think that 's very good to yeah to reach the consumer because er especially younger children are yeah very used with the inter net and er
mhm
m hm
so i 'm very curious about the new internet site and then yeah we can a plan for that then consumer activities on the floor er get stickers for free with a popular licence and er you 've also sent me a picture er how we can do that
m hm
and e r that 's also a possibility e rm or a photo competition or a other competition that er children e r have to make er yeah a special picture of themselves in combination with [thing1] and er the most popular or the most funny e r
mhm
e r photo will win for example a digital er camera
m hm
scratch and win promotion now we have to wait for the re sults of the second scratch and win promotion but i think it 's it will be very successful again so maybe it 's also i need for next year erm
mhm
and erm it 's also an idea to e rm yeah to to make some prizes er together or with a cooperation with [org27] and may be we can give also erm
mhm
trips to [place2] or e rm cinema vouchers or something like that then new characters er you 've als- you 've sent me e rm
mhm
yeah an overview or
meet the robin sons m hm
yeah
do you have e r examples of this e rm
yes we will show them in the in the news pre sen tation
oh okay
okay
yeah
yeah cos i n ever heard of a ratatouille
that 's new for me
ratatouille is that is that that dog of er of lucky luke or
a xxx rat
it 's a famous rat
and something
it 's a rat a french rat
okay
yeah
mhm
famous it 's a famous french rat
yes
mhm
hm x xx xxx
who wants to become a a chef you know chef of the cui sine
o kay
mhm
a rat wants to become a chef of the cuisine
mhm
mhm
mhm
mhm
hm
sounds logical
yeah
ve ry
a normal thing you know so
yeah right
then er tv we have already discussed las- er last time and e r and although it was yeah too early
yes
yeah
and maybe we can do it er if we get more distribution e r distribution after the food approach er be ginning of er two thousand six now hh i thought i
mhm
mhm
mhm
if we have more bud get available
sorry
if and if we have more budget avail able
yeah
yeah i i thought i 've sent you this e r proposal er by mail e r
this one yeah mhm
i 've yeah o kay so it is the same as a
mhm
m hm
erm now print also a good item er of course at stores and magazines and e rm yeah well my question was do you s- hav e er other promotions er erm yeah of other countries successful promotion of other country which we may can use er for er for half of next year
mhm
da koennen wir ihnen das dings weisst du wir haben ja eh
ah fuer die aufsichtsratssitzung
von dem marketing fuer die aufsichtsrats sitzung
genau
ja ja ja
because we er
we collected regarding your question
yeah
we collected all this success stories from from all our partners be cause [firstname1] needed it er for his presentation
yeah
er in front of the board
to the super visory board
so we can we can send it over to you to see
okay
just a a va ri ety
yeah
what we did in the first half of of this year yeah
that you yeah
mhm
mhm
yeah
just just to get the idea
mhm yeah maybe it is a good e r
mhm
yeah but we we collected this ideas already so we have we have them
okay
okay
that 's great
great
mhm
like sharing best practic es
right just for sharing mhm
yeah
yeah sure
mhm
do we still have sponge bob next year
the babies
hm we have some stock
yeah
and this is first
just until may
it it 's it 's so boring in the warehouse you know
mhm yeah
maybe they have it two and a half year
it 's still on tv
in holland
yeah and i think it 's quite popular because even in in serbia they ask for sponge bob in south africa
aha
it 's quite popular but i mean we do n't have the li cence any more yeah hm
it 's still the re
it 's unbelievable
but you have stock for for nearly half a year
now we have stock at this moment e r e r three hundred e rm
cases
cart- yeah cartons and e rm yeah the sale is not that high xxxx
yeah okay but
m hm
but e r
i think we have to finalize that stock little bit earlier than e r than e r may
yeah
m hm mhm
yeah i think so yeah now we will give it away in the scratch and win packag es
yeah
m hm
right
yeah yeah
that 's a good idea
yeah
those things yeah
yeah
mhm mhm
mhm
e rm now mickey mouse heffalump princess cars
prin cess there will come up three new characters next year
sorry
with princess there will come up new three also three new characters next year
oh
okay
so x it 's still the sort name princess when you order it
yeah
but you will instead of just three er characters you will get six different
six
okay
okay
what kind of characters do you know the names of them or
e rm yes it 's
prin cess one two three
snow white
yeah
four five six
snow white aurora a nd
x xxx
because [S3] does n't
she does n't like princess at all so
right right
right you do n't
you do n't like prin cess
and
no not that much so i 'm i really do n't care about princess and you know
i hardly see the diff erence so er be tween i hard ly see the difference be tween er the characters
hm
yeah
right
nor do i so i i i 'm i i do n't pay too much attention to it so
it 's
yeah
but the kids like it that 's
maybe it 's yeah more fun for er younger girls
right
yeah
yes
yeah that 's for sure
yeah
so i know them but i i do n't know the name is n't it aurora
aurora snow white yeah the the third one
aha okay
erm
we have jasmin we have belle we have cinderella
mhm
that 's the only one i know cinderella
hm
i do n't know why but
so these are two the the th ird one er i do n't have a pictures of yet so but they are quite pink
who are those
think pink
so this is e r
this is the cin derella
she has a very small face
yeah
and that 's the aurora
mhm
deborah
au ro ra
au rora
au ro ra
au rora
hm
hm
yeah
okay
and these were the older ones
yeah
yeah
mhm
no it 's aurora arielle and snow white so this is and this was cin derella belle and jasmin
never forget it
no
aurora snow white and
arielle
arielle ah arielle
arielle
yeah
the washing powder ariel
mhm
ariel yes
ariel
mhm
yeah i 've signed the the introduction of the new characters but i yeah that depends also on the schedule which you er have in your mind
m hm
mhm
erm yeah the whole a ssortment
so open season you wait until next year you will not have open season this year
e rm
yeah yeah or yeah the dvd release is e r is yeah more important for us than er the film release
mhm
aha
that 's cos this year
when is the film release it 's some thing with
the fifth of october
fifth of october or so
okay
yeah
mhm
now the display approach e r the yellow e r er ones you will do that er the first er ones of er next year and we will also repeat that activity of course er after the summer holiday and e rm yeah we will do some consumer promotions er two times a year erm around m- march and april and also around september october at the school er
the this is f- scratch and w- kind of scratch and win or what the display approach
e r no that 's the
or to s- to just to
car tons yeah to get distribution in food and then e r
ah the cartons okay
mhm mhm
toy stores et cetera
mhm mhm
yeah that 's a little bit the first overview fo r for next year
mhm
and e rm we think we er we 'll end up then with the sales of er five hundred thousand eu ros
then
x x x
yeah
to add all the new assortments which we will present after wards
yeah
yeah
it was very difficult now already to make an es timate on what we you will
yeah yeah sure
do next year
mhm
mhm
cos you
was not ex pected
mhm
you n- you need to know more more what will ha ppen when and the phasing in is is im portant there as well so
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah mhm
sure
yeah
mhm
mhm mhm
hh but e r the whole idea is that we er continue to to focus on distribution and pos and try to to activate er the brand even more with with consumer activities and perhaps with some media
mhm
mhm
internet or whatever
mhm mhm
to to reach the consumers also on another way and then e r i think er now looking at this the f- the figures of this year that the approach we 've chosen for this year is er is working
yeah
and e r
mhm
yeah some some adjustments here and there and e r and go on
right right
de finitely
yeah
yeah
how is [lastname8] doing by the way
who
[lastname8]
oh i do n't know i do n't wan na hear a thing from him any more
[lastname8] -
he 's still a live and kicking in m- e r
but they asked they they ask us to send some er samples of ca- er of best of [org2]
you 're
you 're you 're
you 're all
rea lly
yeah yeah
so they sent a direct email there mhm
aha
yeah he he
but he had they e r he asked that to you
yeah
okay
really
i think you got it and and you send it to me [lastname8] ask er wrote an
m hm
aha
for the sam ples of best of [org1]
yeah
yeah
and he asked it to you
mhm
and not to us
yeah
he 's crazy
yeah
but now you see how important we are no but that 's crazy i i fully agree with you
the next time when you when he sends a mail like that
i fully agree with you
mhm
mhm
please e r give him er er
a note
give him a note that you will pass this information
mhm
mhm
to us
mhm
and that we will send them the er the the e r the samples
the samples
the sam ples okay
yeah
otherwise you 'll be stuck for the rest of your life to mister [lastname8]
yeah
because when you send it once
okay it 's not x
it was it was specially er addressed to [S3]
he
er of course it is special to
i just forwarded it because
yes
he 's
you see i 'm not responsi ble any more
yes it 's your re la tion you know with him or
yeah
tsək tsək
yeah that 's the truth
and [firstname9] [lastname9] was a pain in my ass at the be gin ning
i thought he was
yeah
at the beginning
i thought he was your bi ggest friend
but then
the update of the a and p you got i assume xxx as well so it 's clear for you
a-
at the ve ry beginning
yeah i received this
yeah yeah
yeah it was clear for me yeah
mhm
mhm
mister [lastname9]
mhm
er he also asked for some items we did not h- have any more or something like that so
yeah [thing4] er the the pla net e rm
and then he wanted to have e r i think we made some enquiries and we said that we could do that or yes
mhm we 've sent e r him a palate of er ice age i thought
yeah
because the or e rm yeah we were out of stock of that and it was not on our assortment any more
yeah
mhm
and he asked us for e r yeah if it was possible of yeah
m hm
that he er could get an a palate of e r ice age
mhm
and he 's also e r
you never know what he does with it
did have the the promo tion trucks wha-
yeah there 's
were they for [lastname8] as well
yeah this wa- they were all for [lastname8] and i think he will give the promotion trucks away
aha
when xx selling er
so it 's his his own promotion
as an incentive
yeah it 's his own pro motion yeah
yeah
mhm
mhm
yeah
m hm
and he was interested in the arctic planet
m hm mhm
mhm
yeah would be good
it 's a yeah that 's only two cartons so yeah i can not introduce e r a new sk sku for only two cartons so that was the rea son why
ah just for two car tons
yeah
yeah
u hu
they 're really interested
yeah
wow
two carton
his idea was to give it a way
to
ah a
and just to use the the one sku to as a present as well
yeah
so maybe we in the future we can erm yeah order it but then get it without a a without a system or something like that but
mhm
it is yeah
you are sure just
just to send it over as a sample
as a as a sample yeah
mhm yeah
and that 's it
as a sample and we can just deduct from a and p and
yeah
yeah
no problem
yeah
i please
hm
please
okay
don-
do n't do this
okay
you know he
come on
try to m- to make to build a business here e r
an- and not to please mister [lastname9]
pf
the moment he finds out he will he will ask all the all the time for it
yeah
for samples
for samples
please send me over
can i go er to a for a quick break at the er
mhm
yeah
yeah
me as well
for me as well be- before we start with the news
yeah
Die angezeigten Daten sind auf ARCHE, im XML oder RDF Format, gespeichert bzw. archiviert. Die Daten können sehr unterschiedlich dargestellt werden. In dieser HTML-Darstellung wurden XSLT-Stylesheets und XPath verwendet um Daten von ARCHE abzufragen und in eine HTML-Struktur zu transformieren. Dieser Prozess schafft die Möglichkeit, eine benutzerfreundliche Web-Applikation zu erstellen.
Der Beta Badge weißt darauf hin, dass die XSLT-Stylesheets derzeit noch in Entwicklung sind. Die Darstellung der Daten kann sich daher ändern. Zusätzliche Information zum Projekt oder weitere Funktionen könnten in Zukunft noch hinzukommen.
The visualized data are saved and archived on ARCHE in XML or RDF formats. This data can be represented differently. In this HTML-Representation the data is transformed into a HTML structure. This process is achieved with XSLT-Stylesheets and XPath.
The Beta Badge is active because the XSLT-Stylesheets are still in development. Therefore, the Web-Application can change and data could be visualized differently. Furthermore, additonal data or functions could be added.